Wiers Opening?

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

You are talking about two different monsters .....9o% of the east erosion is from changing water ways to build cites underwater level

Here on west side do not have a marsh erosion problem and our marshes were top shelf before Rita and Ike

Our east side Marshes are not in any kind of close gate choke off lake problem

This coming from guys who hunt, fish and live off that marsh along with a biologist

My lord W, really? No marsh erosion problems on west side? Haven't we gone through all this? Are you blind, come on man I can not believe you really said that.




as far as an 'off year' for fishing/shrimping, I have seen that from reports all over the state and its not because of a wier. Shrimping season has been much later than usual all over the state. You can see this just by asking the people who sell live shrimp from Hopedale, Grand Isle, and even Calcasieu Point. Its everywhere.

When people have a bad day fishing in Hopedale its because of freshwater diversions, Grand Isle is BP fault, Calcasieu Lake is the wiers or 15 trout limit, pick one



What 'east side' marshes are you talking about? East Louisiana or East Big Lake? Because there are definitely some manmade structures on the East side of Louisiana

[slickfish]

Originally Posted by "W"

Maybe on my 5th attempt to load on u tube it might take so i can post it

Are you really admitting your not that smart? What I'm thinking i read your post. Enough said.

["W"]

Originally Posted by slickfish

Are you really admitting your not that smart? What I'm thinking i read your post. Enough said.

Smart is knowing this is your #87 post and 86 have been about me

Lmao

Pretty much own you !! I guess I can now add you to Club "W"

Salty
Rene (ASR)
And now SlickFish

Welcome to the club!! You have now comment and quoted 99.999 % of your comments towards me

Send me your shirt size and I will have your club "W" start up kit in mail ASAP

[slickfish]

Originally Posted by "W"

Smart is knowing this is your #87 post and 86 have been about me

Lmao

Pretty much own you !! I guess I can now add you to Club "W"

Salty
Rene (ASR)
And now SlickFish

Welcome to the club!! You have now comment and quoted 99.999 % of your comments towards me

Send me your shirt size and I will have your club "W" start up kit in mail ASAP

Bothered much?

[barbarian]

Originally Posted by homerun

I hunted within site of weirs this weekend. there is a ton of shrimp back there. canals and ponds are full of shrimp jumping behind boat. they are thriving back there

Appreciate the invite. Glad I didn't go though cuz I heard ya'll all got out shot by the little man.

[Kenner18]

In 2003 and 2011 our entire marsh froze for more than one day ,so yes a freeze has occurred twice in the past ten years in our area. Both years had temps in the 20's .

Widgeon grass can survive in salinity as high as 30 ppt ,while currently Big Lake is running around 21 ppt.

I have fished Big Lake for at least 12 yrs now and this has been the worst year I can recall as far as catches ,for whatever the reason .

I truly believe man should not fool with what nature created. I grew up fishing Black Bayou in the Vinton area . Bass fishing was spectacular until man decided to block off cuts into the area . Along came hurricane rita and filled the marshes with saltwater ,which had no escape due to the blockages man created . Now most of the areas where bass once were are inhabited by redfish .

Im no marine biologist .These are just things I have seen with my own eyes that have occurred in the past twenty or so years in our area.

[huntin fool]

Originally Posted by Kenner18

In 2003 and 2011 our entire marsh froze for more than one day ,so yes a freeze has occurred twice in the past ten years in our area. Both years had temps in the 20's.

^^^^

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by huntin fool

^^^^

Jesus help us, his name is Kenner and you have a tohatsu in your avatar. :*****: Living by the code, respect is given when respect is due.

[Spunt Drag]

Originally Posted by Kenner18

In 2003 and 2011 our entire marsh froze for more than one day ,so yes a freeze has occurred twice in the past ten years in our area. Both years had temps in the 20's .

Widgeon grass can survive in salinity as high as 30 ppt ,while currently Big Lake is running around 21 ppt.

I have fished Big Lake for at least 12 yrs now and this has been the worst year I can recall as far as catches ,for whatever the reason .

I truly believe man should not fool with what nature created. I grew up fishing Black Bayou in the Vinton area . Bass fishing was spectacular until man decided to block off cuts into the area . Along came hurricane rita and filled the marshes with saltwater ,which had no escape due to the blockages man created . Now most of the areas where bass once were are inhabited by redfish .

Im no marine biologist .These are just things I have seen with my own eyes that have occurred in the past twenty or so years in our area.

It can survive for what extended period of time?

[Kenner18]

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag

It can survive for what extended period of time?

There was no clear amount of time that it would survive in the info I researched . Here is the info I had found a few yrs ago .

Salinity:
Ruppia maritima has been found in water ranging from fresh to 32 ppt salinity, but is generally found in waters of 25.0 ppt or less (Phillips 1960).
In vitro rhizome growth and rooting of Ruppia maritima occurred at various salinities using artificial seawater. Rhizome production was most rapid at 0 & 5 ppt as opposed to 10, 15 and 20 ppt salinity. In vitro root production, although requiring an external carbon source, was greatest at 5 and 10 ppt salinity. This study also showed that ex vitro plantings were very successful suggesting that Ruppia maritima would be a good candidate for propagation through in vitro culture (Bird et al. 1993).
When Ruppia maritima from Redfish Bay, Texas, was transferred to outdoor ponds and controlled growth rooms where salinity was artificially increased, in the latter environment, growth continued until 70 ppt salinity in controlled growth rooms. In this same environment, R. maritima tolerated a salinity of 74 ppt, for a brief period.

[Duck Butter]

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[Duck Butter]

Your land is eroding away right before your eyes

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by Kenner18

In 2003 and 2011 our entire marsh froze for more than one day ,so yes a freeze has occurred twice in the past ten years in our area. Both years had temps in the 20's .

Widgeon grass can survive in salinity as high as 30 ppt ,while currently Big Lake is running around 21 ppt.

I have fished Big Lake for at least 12 yrs now and this has been the worst year I can recall as far as catches ,for whatever the reason .

I truly believe man should not fool with what nature created. I grew up fishing Black Bayou in the Vinton area . Bass fishing was spectacular until man decided to block off cuts into the area . Along came hurricane rita and filled the marshes with saltwater ,which had no escape due to the blockages man created . Now most of the areas where bass once were are inhabited by redfish .

Im no marine biologist .These are just things I have seen with my own eyes that have occurred in the past twenty or so years in our area.

Not saying a freeze won't happen. I AM SAYING A FREEZE WILL NOT OCCUR DURING THE TIME THAT SHRIMP ARE STILL IN THE MARSHES. But hey if you think that out of 10 years, 4 days of frozen marsh and a very slight possibility that the weirs weren't open that fall is worth talking about out of the other 3,646 days of saltwater intrusion then so be it.

As far as those blockages you speak of, I agree they should be allowed to drain as well. Very likely that if those blockages weren't there you would have probably been catching reds much sooner than Rita. A couple tropical storms and high tides and that area would have been eaten up with the salt much sooner.

It's the big picture..... risk vs reward. I'm sure when the salinity levels are too high the biologist aren't giving 2 *****s that W can't go throw his cast net at the weirs or take his customers to go catch some reds! Thousands of acres of coastal protection is priority.

[Kenner18]

Originally Posted by Nickt87

Not saying a freeze won't happen. I AM SAYING A FREEZE WILL NOT OCCUR DURING THE TIME THAT SHRIMP ARE STILL IN THE MARSHES. But hey if you think that out of 10 years, 4 days of frozen marsh and a very slight possibility that the weirs weren't open that fall is worth talking about out of the other 3,646 days of saltwater intrusion then so be it.

As far as those blockages you speak of, I agree they should be allowed to drain as well. Very likely that if those blockages weren't there you would have probably been catching reds much sooner than Rita. A couple tropical storms and high tides and that area would have been eaten up with the salt much sooner.

It's the big picture..... risk vs reward. I'm sure when the salinity levels are too high the biologist aren't giving 2 *****s that W can't go throw his cast net at the weirs or take his customers to go catch some reds! Thousands of acres of coastal protection is priority.

Im simply stating facts about the freezes that occurred in those yrs . Both times it was in January ,so yes you are correct about it not happening until after November possibly .If it was to happen again. .

Im a firm believer that the good Lord knows whats best for his creation ,and Man should let things be sometimes instead of overthinking and overeacting . He created tides and natural drains for a reason.

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by Kenner18

Im simply stating facts about the freezes that occurred in those yrs . Both times it was in January ,so yes you are correct about it not happening until after November possibly .If it was to happen again. .

Im a firm believer that the good Lord knows whats best for his creation ,and Man should let things be sometimes instead of overthinking and overeacting . He created tides and natural drains for a reason.

Understood.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Kenner18

Im simply stating facts about the freezes that occurred in those yrs . Both times it was in January ,so yes you are correct about it not happening until after November possibly .If it was to happen again. .

Im a firm believer that the good Lord knows whats best for his creation ,and Man should let things be sometimes instead of overthinking and overeacting . He created tides and natural drains for a reason.

I agree with almost everything you said, but the wiers are there to mitigate for the building of the ship channel. The ship channel created a direct route (north/south) for saltwater to come in and stay longer than the good Lord intended. Man did that, but without the ship channel what is Lake Charles? Its entire industry relies on that ship channel. Wiers were put there to mitigate for that rise in salinity that WILL kill brackish marsh.

If there was no ship channel there would not be a need for wiers. Its the same with the oil/gas canals, they provide direct routes for saltwater intrusion and inevitably erosion WILL happen. It can be seen on any aerial photo of coastal Louisiana (Wax Lake not included)

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE

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Marsh dont freeze as per Duck Butt and Nick

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