Cajun Navy - Training, Permits, License and Fees

[duckman1911]

Would someone please point out a flood story were someone was worse off because a bunch of untrained civilians.

[fishfighter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byxzRGZwMaw

[ckinchen]

I'm done with this. Going to go coach youth football have a good evening. Sorry I got carried away its an emotional subject for me.

[Marque]

Set up an obstacle like this if you can pull it off your in. If not send them back to the Sigma Nu house with their tail between their legs.

[duckman1911]

My point all along is that this scared our government. During Katrina people helped but they waited first.This time they didnt wait. They acted. Our government saw how much they weren't needed

[Broke Down]

The guy I sold my 5 ton to had to lead the Guard in certain areas in BR. They didn't know the area and were scared to proceed so Ashton jumped in and lead. We have to band together as a community in these times. I could see training, but volunteer only. I have been involved in flood aid and disaster relief situations, it can get dangerous if there is no communication. Sometimes there isn't time, you have to think it all through before you react if possible but keep moving. At the end of the day safety is key. Tell a politician to pull up to someone in a boat, look them in the eye while their life is on the line and say "sorry, I can't help". I bet it wouldn't happen if it was their family.

[keakar]

I think ALL that is needed is to pass a simple regulation that states

"in times of emergency, the local official in charge of emergency response for the area involved can empower and authorize "anyone" to act as a good Samaritan and he and they will be "free from liability and regulation" for doing so and they will be able to serve as auxiliary emergency responders and be directed for duties as such"

feel free to take my words exactly and make it law, you don't need permits, classes, special training, or anything else.

in the case of applying this to boats, you simply make sure they are meeting the basic coast guard safety checks and issue them a basic "passed CG inspection" letter is all that should be required

if all that is desired is to simplify the process and make sure people get help they need, then nothing more should be asked for, but since when does common sense apply

[eman]

There were multiple guides w/ 6 pak license that were turned away by state police. It seems that the local leo was happy to have any help. I understand that yes i can take a boat and in my area i know the ditches and canals and short cuts i could take if needed when flooded. But what if it flooded in Lafayette ? I dont know the area or where certain streets are . If i took a boat there i would be in the way. Now if thru a group i could be paired up with someone who lived there it would be totally different

[Broke Down]

The problem with common sense these days is that it isn't so common any more....lol.

[Top Dawg]

More laws just takes more freedom away. How about removing laws restricting civilians.

[Loneshark]

I couldn't understand the need to permit the rescuers until I thought about the security aspect. I know most on here will say that they will not leave their home, but many people do, and if the water gets high enough you will also.

When we think of the Cajun Navy we picture ourselves or our friends in our duck boats, but what is stopping the shady members of society. They could easily get in a boat and access abandoned homes even after curfew hours and claim they are part of the Cajun Navy.

[duckman1911]

We can end this now. Next time the unorganized untrained people just stay home and care for their own. Let the organized trained people handle it. After that we'll compare the body count.

[homerun]

As with any decision in life there is a Risk/Reward equation here.

By all means the Reward outweighs the Risk here. If your not part of the solution then you become part of the problem.

[Andy C]

Yes there was a few "drunk" people running around. There's nothing anyone can do about that!!
Help all you can till, a command shows up, and be as safe as you can about it till then. Then report to them what/where you been. And let them send you back out,or not.

The Cajun navy saved a lot of people in the first 8-15 hours, and did alot after leo got involved. There needs to be no training or card, its people helping people, till a command is set up then report to them.!!!
Just my .02 having been on both sides of this problem..

[Top Dawg]

Know a guy in mermantau cove that had a dry house until the trained rescue team showed up. Pulled up on their tax bought side by sides and slung a wake right thru his living room.

[fullrutt]

This may be off subject! I for one do not think their should be a training class or permit.

But on Thursday and Friday when the floods started in the central and Denham areas I grabbed my airboat and gator Trax and headed to central. Because I got a call from a buddy who's family was trapped. When I reached wax road in central.
There was about 10
Boats already helping. Along with WLF, CFD, sherifs, etc, we jumped in and started the help. Talking with WLF and sherifs they were grateful for the help cause they said they were exhausted. Gave us pointers on where to go, what need to be done, and the cautions of the raging waters.

We helped from morning to night as volunteers, friends and family members wanted to help. We rescued young couples who had 2-10 month old babies, we rescued elderly who had no idea
What was going on and that took 3/4 guys to lift out of chairs into boats because they barley could walk. Just a horrible situation.
We were all volunteers and thanked by first responders. EBRPSO were coming up with cars saying they were getting reports of people in areas with no boats in the areas and sending us to those areas. State troopers were constructing us on our marine radios where to go.

But at some point while taking a
Gas break late Friday with the line of boats spanning out a few of us kept hearing these guys pulling up, beers in there hands, yelling we are the "Cajun navy" here to save you, "Cajun navy" doing the jobs of cops, " Cajun navy" the real help... A bunch of coon ****s really..

Rescuing for almost 48 hours side by side to firefighters,
Cops, WLF agents, retired military etc then the supposed Cajun navy shows up. I could see the aggravation in the first responders eyes.

I couldn't believe the number of boats saying this bull*****. It was more of a glory moment for them screaming they were the Cajun navy then actually going and helping someone.

I helped rescue 3 guys in a Aluminum boat that basically said "watch this hold my
Beer" trying to go through the rapids when the entire rescue crew that had been out there had been going around. First thing they say " we are the Cajun Navy" like seriously idiots! this is why the real guys who were out there before the whole Cajun navy crap started will have to get permits.

Saturday morning We sat with some WLF agents on the side
Of the road off of the central
Thruway waiting on some tools to help one of the WLF airboats and you could literally watch the conversations of guys basically just wanting to have there 15 mins of fame of being called the Cajun navy and there boat being on the news, while icing down beer.

I wanted to be out there because I knew I had the boats that could help. People needed help! I'm not going to sit around watching people drown and if it takes me now to get a permit to do so I would. I wouldn't have thought state troopers or any other officials would tell a boat to go away but now after seeing these yahoos screaming Cajun navy and saying the crap
They did I can see why the whole
Permit and discussions have come up.







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[seachaser250]

Originally Posted by fullrutt

This may be off subject! I for one do not think their should be a training class or permit.

But on Thursday and Friday when the floods started in the central and Denham areas I grabbed my airboat and gator Trax and headed to central. Because I got a call from a buddy who's family was trapped. When I reached wax road in central.
There was about 10
Boats already helping. Along with WLF, CFD, sherifs, etc, we jumped in and started the help. Talking with WLF and sherifs they were grateful for the help cause they said they were exhausted. Gave us pointers on where to go, what need to be done, and the cautions of the raging waters.

We helped from morning to night as volunteers, friends and family members wanted to help. We rescued young couples who had 2-10 month old babies, we rescued elderly who had no idea
What was going on and that took 3/4 guys to lift out of chairs into boats because they barley could walk. Just a horrible situation.
We were all volunteers and thanked by first responders. EBRPSO were coming up with cars saying they were getting reports of people in areas with no boats in the areas and sending us to those areas. State troopers were constructing us on our marine radios where to go.

But at some point while taking a
Gas break late Friday with the line of boats spanning out a few of us kept hearing these guys pulling up, beers in there hands, yelling we are the "Cajun navy" here to save you, "Cajun navy" doing the jobs of cops, " Cajun navy" the real help... A bunch of coon ****s really..

Rescuing for almost 48 hours side by side to firefighters,
Cops, WLF agents, retired military etc then the supposed Cajun navy shows up. I could see the aggravation in the first responders eyes.

I couldn't believe the number of boats saying this bull*****. It was more of a glory moment for them screaming they were the Cajun navy then actually going and helping someone.

I helped rescue 3 guys in a Aluminum boat that basically said "watch this hold my
Beer" trying to go through the rapids when the entire rescue crew that had been out there had been going around. First thing they say " we are the Cajun Navy" like seriously idiots! this is why the real guys who were out there before the whole Cajun navy crap started will have to get permits.

Saturday morning We sat with some WLF agents on the side
Of the road off of the central
Thruway waiting on some tools to help one of the WLF airboats and you could literally watch the conversations of guys basically just wanting to have there 15 mins of fame of being called the Cajun navy and there boat being on the news, while icing down beer.

I wanted to be out there because I knew I had the boats that could help. People needed help! I'm not going to sit around watching people drown and if it takes me now to get a permit to do so I would. I wouldn't have thought state troopers or any other officials would tell a boat to go away but now after seeing these yahoos screaming Cajun navy and saying the crap
They did I can see why the whole
Permit and discussions have come up.


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Cool Story Bro. But your one incident doesn't speak for all the good that took place. If a permit was required those idiots would have known better than to show up acting like idiots.

[fullrutt]

Originally Posted by seachaser250

Cool Story Bro. But your one incident doesn't speak for all the good that took place. If a permit was required those idiots would have known better than to show up acting like idiots.

Hey bro.... Lol

Didn't say there wasn't any good done.. Their would be more people who may have died if it was for all of us with boats who helped. I was saying a permit may keep all the coondiks who care more about being called Cajun navy and being on tv away then actually caring your saving people's lives.

Got it bro?!



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[seachaser250]

[QUOTE=fullrutt;805082]Hey bro.... Lol

Didn't say there wasn't any good done.. Their would be more people who may have died if it was for all of us with boats who helped. I was saying a permit may keep all the coondiks who care more about being called Cajun navy and being on tv away then actually caring your saving people's lives.

Got it bro?!



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You pretty much missed my entire point and sarcastic tone.

I'm talk about the ridiculous idea that some sort of bs certification thingy is going to stop idiots from getting in the way, not to mention the waste of our tax dollars to fund this bs idea.

[fullrutt]

[quote=seachaser250;805083]

Originally Posted by fullrutt

Hey bro.... Lol



Didn't say there wasn't any good done.. Their would be more people who may have died if it was for all of us with boats who helped. I was saying a permit may keep all the coondiks who care more about being called Cajun navy and being on tv away then actually caring your saving people's lives.



Got it bro?!







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You pretty much missed my entire point and sarcastic tone.



I'm talk about the ridiculous idea that some sort of bs certification thingy is going to stop idiots from getting in the way, not to mention the waste of our tax dollars to fund this bs idea.

Gotcha I do understand your cert. Point! this is true