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Old 09-16-2016, 07:24 AM
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No one calls well enough to kill specks everyday. Some days it just doesn't happen.
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:25 AM
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I personally think that if you can call above average, and there is a select group of callers in the section of the world that can, AND, you have the right conditions and a good flyway, then yes, I do believe a man can kill a limit of specks everyday in SW LA.

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Old 09-16-2016, 11:47 AM
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I personally think that if you can call above average, and there is a select group of callers in the section of the world that can, AND, you have the right conditions and a good flyway, then yes, I do believe a man can kill a limit of specks everyday in SW LA.


There are a few who can and do


But as stated,you must have some kind of flight,and other variables lining up,----field prep,concealment,decoys


But the few elite callers who pull this off are very few and far between--you got to have a mighty large bag of tricks to throw at them
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:01 PM
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LAst year when I would read you struggled for birds Mr. John I may or may not have did a silent thank god bc I was struggling, If your struggling the birds just aren't working right or not there! lol
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:20 PM
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LAst year when I would read you struggled for birds Mr. John I may or may not have did a silent thank god bc I was struggling, If your struggling the birds just aren't working right or not there! lol


Man they are getting tougher each year


the pressure around is unreal,as stated earlier,the level of calling has improved in every field it seems


but it is what it is,we deal with the cards dealt and keep after them
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:35 PM
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yessir I agree completely. I had some great hunts and some humbling hunts. Just the way it goes.

Just keeping after them.
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Old 09-16-2016, 01:27 PM
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I know guys that are very average callers and kill limits every day. I also know very good (competition) callers that don't kill very many limits at all. I think it's got way more to do with where you are than it does how well you can call.

There's much to be said about guys that actually know how to read and work birds too. there's a big difference between being able to run a call at a high level and being able to put birds on the strap.
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Old 09-16-2016, 02:19 PM
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I know guys that are very average callers and kill limits every day. I also know very good (competition) callers that don't kill very many limits at all. I think it's got way more to do with where you are than it does how well you can call.

There's much to be said about guys that actually know how to read and work birds too. there's a big difference between being able to run a call at a high level and being able to put birds on the strap.

No doubt! I agree 110% I also know guys that are terrible at calling, but can read birds and seem to just "know" what to do and when. It amazes me every time. All this talk about specks is getting me excited to talk to some bellies!!

Uka-uk!!!
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Old 09-19-2016, 05:55 PM
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I know guys that are very average callers and kill limits every day. I also know very good (competition) callers that don't kill very many limits at all. I think it's got way more to do with where you are than it does how well you can call.

There's much to be said about guys that actually know how to read and work birds too. there's a big difference between being able to run a call at a high level and being able to put birds on the strap.
You nailed it I agree, gotta read em right.
I will use the "trophy" hunting anology that commonly takes place at bars.
IMO competent calling gets you in the door, but knowing what to say and when will greatly increase you odds of leaving with company.

You can choose your targets wisely with a planned out approach or you can yell at every prospect within earshot and hope for the best. Otherwise known as the "Refuge Approach".
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:30 AM
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silence is the best note shape at times
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:06 AM
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silence is the best note shape at times
silence is my secret weapon... Get them fired up then cut off communication, it really pisses them off sometimes and makes them get stupid and come right over the decoys trying to figure out way they can't hear anything.
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:01 PM
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Whether we agree on any of these matters or not we all have the same thing on our mind, colder weather, whiskey drinks, and bellies following from the sky!
Live by the yodel, die by the cluck!
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:36 AM
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I'm ready to hear that ground thump baw!

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like ole Buck Gardner says, "always call at wing tips and tale feathers".
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Old 09-21-2016, 12:55 PM
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I had a few times last season where I'd get some hot and then panic not wanting to squeal a note or say the wrong thing with them close, and they'd lose interest and keep on keeping on. Talk about frustrating.
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Old 09-21-2016, 02:34 PM
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That is exactly what made me seek out a more realistic calling approach then lu lu,la la la,lu lu


I did burst method for 20 years before I got into what I do now---why? 10 years ago in my area lu lu la la quit being effective


It would trigger initial response,but birds would go stale real quick and it is one hell of a bad feeling to know you have nothing left to throw at them sound wise as they continue to avoid finishing,slide off to the side,or not even break.
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Old 09-22-2016, 07:52 AM
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That is exactly what made me seek out a more realistic calling approach then lu lu,la la la,lu lu


I did burst method for 20 years before I got into what I do now---why? 10 years ago in my area lu lu la la quit being effective


It would trigger initial response,but birds would go stale real quick and it is one hell of a bad feeling to know you have nothing left to throw at them sound wise as they continue to avoid finishing,slide off to the side,or not even break.
THIS^^ made me hate them even more each time it happened. In my situation, there were more factors than just lack of tricks that would get them to loose interest. Mainly the 100+ live specks a few cuts over that set up shop all second split. But, even then I think a lot of those geese were killable for someone that could finish them. I brought Hunter out there thinking he could talk some in to it. Ended up being a terrible day conditions wise, and they were not having it.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:11 AM
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THIS^^ made me hate them even more each time it happened. In my situation, there were more factors than just lack of tricks that would get them to loose interest. Mainly the 100+ live specks a few cuts over that set up shop all second split. But, even then I think a lot of those geese were killable for someone that could finish them. I brought Hunter out there thinking he could talk some in to it. Ended up being a terrible day conditions wise, and they were not having it.
Depending on how far away the body is you can usually break a few, but in that situation, I find my calling gets more aggressive if they leave they leave but I won't stop on birds like that. Just because your already competing with 100+ live birds. That is just what I do. And being able to regulate your air in take while calling will help out a lot. Anyone can learn how to run a call but learning when the best time to take a little breath so that you don't get out of breath plays a big factor.
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Depending on how far away the body is you can usually break a few, but in that situation, I find my calling gets more aggressive if they leave they leave but I won't stop on birds like that. Just because your already competing with 100+ live birds. That is just what I do. And being able to regulate your air in take while calling will help out a lot. Anyone can learn how to run a call but learning when the best time to take a little breath so that you don't get out of breath plays a big factor.
Good to know. Thanks.


Any pro tips on finishing them after you've got them hooked up? Or at least what not to do?
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:28 AM
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Now with a body of birds right on my a$$ That calling strategy will very.
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