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Old 04-13-2015, 06:22 AM
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Thanks for that info. Don't let one cell phone video convince you that this officer is in the wrong. Im not saying he is innocent or guilty but know the facts before gettin all worked up. I have never seen the U.S.A. so race divided until these last few years, have you??? and its gettin old.
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:39 AM
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Never seen it so race divided? Where have you been?

How can anyone be allowed to shoot a citizen in the back?
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:10 AM
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How can anyone be allowed to shoot a citizen in the back?
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:39 AM
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How can anyone be allowed to shoot a citizen in the back?
Just curious. I don't think it was right either. More facts will come out. But would u say if the officer was shot with his pistol instead of the taser before the criminal fled, would the shooting be justified then?
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Old 04-13-2015, 09:22 AM
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Just curious. I don't think it was right either. More facts will come out. But would u say if the officer was shot with his pistol instead of the taser before the criminal fled, would the shooting be justified then?

That many times in the back? Not in my opinion. The guy was unarmed and wasn't on his way to a mass murder, maybe he was getting away from a cop that probably gave him an indication of a threat (not sure why, cops are all so level headed and honest).

There are too many variables in that hypothetical, the focus should be on the actual scenario.

The only reason you shoot someone, unarmed, in the back that many times is out of aggravation and being pissed off. Dude was running no more than a regular person's brisk walk. Call back up and search for him, and give the man a trial - he is still a person and still a citizen of the U.S.

Liberty and justice for all, and if this is justifiable then I am ashamed of our country.
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Old 04-13-2015, 09:23 AM
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That many times in the back? Not in my opinion. The guy was unarmed and wasn't on his way to a mass murder, maybe he was getting away from a cop that probably gave him an indication of a threat (not sure why, cops are all so level headed and honest).

There are too many variables in that hypothetical, the focus should be on the actual scenario.

The only reason you shoot someone, unarmed, in the back that many times is out of aggravation and being pissed off. Dude was running no more than a regular person's brisk walk. Call back up and search for him, and give the man a trial - he is still a person and still a citizen of the U.S.

Liberty and justice for all, and if this is justifiable then I am ashamed of our country.

I agree. That was excessive.


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Old 04-13-2015, 09:43 AM
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Firstly i would like to apologize to society for this very avoidable incident! I feel obligated to say that to each of you b/c i do this job! I represent this job! I took the burden doing this job not because i got to hurt anyone or got the chance to shoot somebody! I took this job for the right reasons! To help and defend the innocent! Do not let this incident ruin your perspective of what i am here for. I am sure if mr. Scott was alive today he would love to change his mind and not fled. Still without judgement, from what has been seen so far mr. Scott should have not been shot! I could sit here and type a tyrad about what i think is wrong with society. B/c i think society is responsible for alot of actions of citizens and leo. One thing is there is "no limits" some people will go to nowdays to steal, rob, kill, etc. To those who support us please continue to pray for us everyday. For those who have a dislike for us, pray for us too so i will make the right decisions in a milli-second. Because i stepped forward to do the job you could not do! I joke sometimes when people aske me how my days going by saying, "if it's good for me, then it's bad for someone else." some say i have a hard job i respond jokingly by saying, "yep, in all my years i have not had one person call me and ask to come by their house because they where having a good day".
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but maybe if the guy would have put the cell phone down and yelled at the cop to stop after the first shot the dude may have lived!
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Old 04-13-2015, 02:14 PM
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but maybe if the guy would have put the cell phone down and yelled at the cop to stop after the first shot the dude may have lived!
Or he could have gotten himself killed also.

It's not a citizen's responsibility to stop a murdering cop.
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Old 04-13-2015, 02:27 PM
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but maybe if the guy would have put the cell phone down and yelled at the cop to stop after the first shot the dude may have lived!
Really!!! A LEO just committed a crime and you are going to tell him to "STOP".... Might work on TV,,,,however I doubt it will work in real world... the guy is lucky they did not beat his A&& and take his phone....infact would you bet your Life On it.... and be the citizen to make the arrest, when the LEO has a loaded gun....
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Yea, if the cop would have realized he was being filmed he would have surely destroyed the cell phone and arrested the citizen. the officer would likely have never been arrested.

if I am not mistaken they have actually passed a law in Lafayette which makes it illegal to film police officers from a certain distance.
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I read that there was a 2 minute struggle before the video began during which Scott overpowered the officer, took his taser, and fired it, hitting the officer in the chest and leg. Don't rush to judgment until all the facts are known. If Scott had the taser, which it appears in the video he did, that is a game changer. The officer drew his weapon while still physically touching Scott, and adrenaline may have taken over from there. I'll reserve judgment until all facts come out at trial.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:22 PM
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i read that there was a 2 minute struggle before the video began during which scott overpowered the officer, took his taser, and fired it, hitting the officer in the chest and leg. Don't rush to judgment until all the facts are known. If scott had the taser, which it appears in the video he did, that is a game changer. The officer drew his weapon while still physically touching scott, and adrenaline may have taken over from there. I'll reserve judgment until all facts come out at trial.

thank you!!!!
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:50 PM
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I read that there was a 2 minute struggle before the video began during which Scott overpowered the officer, took his taser, and fired it, hitting the officer in the chest and leg. Don't rush to judgment until all the facts are known. If Scott had the taser, which it appears in the video he did, that is a game changer. The officer drew his weapon while still physically touching Scott, and adrenaline may have taken over from there. I'll reserve judgment until all facts come out at trial.

Must not have traded him too much...

You haven't reserved judgement because you are already leaning on the adrenaline excuse.

If the perp is running and you aren't in harms way anymore, why shoot? Adrenaline and anger are two different things. Plus, if he didn't have enough sense to cease fire due to adrenaline, then how did he miraculously come to his senses seconds later, pick up the taser and throw it next to the body to make the scene look more in his favor?

Some of the facts you seek may be hidden in logic.
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:59 PM
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Must not have traded him too much...

You haven't reserved judgement because you are already leaning on the adrenaline excuse.

If the perp is running and you aren't in harms way anymore, why shoot? Adrenaline and anger are two different things. Plus, if he didn't have enough sense to cease fire due to adrenaline, then how did he miraculously come to his senses seconds later, pick up the taser and throw it next to the body to make the scene look more in his favor?

Some of the facts you seek may be hidden in logic.

If I still have taser darts in me and perp still has the trigger mechanism, doesn't matter to me if he's running. You can run and squeeze a trigger at the same time.

Just saying, don't lynch the guy until we have the facts. He is innocent until proven guilty. There is no law stating that you can't shoot someone in the back of you fear bodily harm. I have no idea if the article is credible or not, but it seems like a plausible situation.

What bothers me the most about the entire thing is that the officer appeared to try to doctor the crime scene afterwards by dropping something next to Smith. Not sure what that was all about, but I'm sure it will come out at trial.

Here's the article if anyone wants to read it. Someone shared it on Facebook and I saw it on my Newsfeed. No idea if this is a credible source or if it's garbage:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...h-taser-darts/
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:40 PM
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If I still have taser darts in me and perp still has the trigger mechanism, doesn't matter to me if he's running. You can run and squeeze a trigger at the same time.

Just saying, don't lynch the guy until we have the facts. He is innocent until proven guilty. There is no law stating that you can't shoot someone in the back of you fear bodily harm. I have no idea if the article is credible or not, but it seems like a plausible situation.

What bothers me the most about the entire thing is that the officer appeared to try to doctor the crime scene afterwards by dropping something next to Smith. Not sure what that was all about, but I'm sure it will come out at trial.

Here's the article if anyone wants to read it. Someone shared it on Facebook and I saw it on my Newsfeed. No idea if this is a credible source or if it's garbage:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...h-taser-darts/
Thank you again! Too many people want to jump to conclusions over one persons cell phone video! Wait and hear the facts before stating murder geeze. What if the perp grabbed his pistol (which looks just like the taser the officer got SHOT with and killed the cop? Oh well the poor lil criminal just thought it was a taser?
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:02 PM
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Oh well the poor lil criminal just thought it was a taser?

Interesting... This same excuse is flying for a cop that did the same exact thing. Shot a guy with what he thought was his taser, but it was adrenaline so it's all good.

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If I still have taser darts in me and perp still has the trigger mechanism, doesn't matter to me if he's running. You can run and squeeze a trigger at the same time.

Just saying, don't lynch the guy until we have the facts. He is innocent until proven guilty. There is no law stating that you can't shoot someone in the back of you fear bodily harm. I have no idea if the article is credible or not, but it seems like a plausible situation.

What bothers me the most about the entire thing is that the officer appeared to try to doctor the crime scene afterwards by dropping something next to Smith. Not sure what that was all about, but I'm sure it will come out at trial.

Here's the article if anyone wants to read it. Someone shared it on Facebook and I saw it on my Newsfeed. No idea if this is a credible source or if it's garbage:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...h-taser-darts/
Well, one fact you don't have to wait for is the guy didn't have the Taser in his hand when the cop was firing. It was at the cop's feet. That's factual.

I understand people are hoping, wishing and looking for any means to justify this killing, but - even after all of the facts come out - it's going to be hard to prove this officer's life was in any danger when he shot at this guy. Eight times. In the back.
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I read that there was a 2 minute struggle before the video began during which Scott overpowered the officer, took his taser, and fired it, hitting the officer in the chest and leg. Don't rush to judgment until all the facts are known. If Scott had the taser, which it appears in the video he did, that is a game changer. The officer drew his weapon while still physically touching Scott, and adrenaline may have taken over from there. I'll reserve judgment until all facts come out at trial.
Where did you read this?
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