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Old 10-28-2015, 01:47 PM
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Regarding duck numbers. Larry does his survey's every year. I have not looked but I would imagine that information is available or Larry could get it for us. He is on this site regularly. It would probably be helpful to compare his numbers over the last 20 years as a good starting point. If someone has these numbers please post them here.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:51 PM
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Regarding duck numbers. Larry does his survey's every year. I have not looked but I would imagine that information is available or Larry could get it for us. He is on this site regularly. It would probably be helpful to compare his numbers over the last 20 years as a good starting point. If someone has these numbers please post them here.
http://wlf.louisiana.gov/hunting/aer...erfowl-surveys

This goes back to 2004. The estimate in November 2004 was a little over 1 million. The estimate in 2014 was a little over 3.1 million. There were 2.2 million dabblers in 2014.
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Old 10-28-2015, 04:51 PM
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DU and CCA are on the same page in my book. you can scream and holler all you want
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DU and CCA are on the same page in my book. you can scream and holler all you want
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Old 10-28-2015, 04:55 PM
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I'ma go ahead and hunt the "DU project" at sabine and when I get caught i'ma just tell em I saw a map on the internet that said I could hunt it lol.
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Old 10-28-2015, 05:04 PM
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I'ma go ahead and hunt the "DU project" at sabine and when I get caught i'ma just tell em I saw a map on the internet that said I could hunt it lol.

Just because it's a DU project doesn't mean it's huntable. DU isn't a duck blind leasing agency. It's a conservation organization. Didn't think I'd have to spell that out for ya


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Old 10-28-2015, 05:05 PM
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Just because it's a DU project doesn't mean it's huntable. DU isn't a duck blind leasing agency. It's a conservation organization. Didn't think I'd have to spell that out for ya


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Old 10-28-2015, 05:23 PM
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Just goin by what the map says man.

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Show me on the map where it says "hunting areas" or anything of the sort


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Old 10-28-2015, 05:25 PM
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Show me on the map where it says "hunting areas" or anything of the sort


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Read the map close. "I didn't think I'd have to spell it out for ya"

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I'ma go ahead and hunt the "DU project" at sabine and when I get caught i'ma just tell em I saw a map on the internet that said I could hunt it lol.

Do you know where the DU project at Sabine is? Or what it is specifically
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:18 PM
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Do you know where the DU project at Sabine is? Or what it is specifically
According to the DU website, yes I know where it's at.

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According to the DU website, yes I know where it's at.

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I tried to find it, help me out here .
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:19 PM
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I tried to find it, help me out here .
It's west of burton ditch. The terraces

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Old 10-28-2015, 05:37 PM
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The Sabine DU project, at least the one I know of, is not within the huntable area on the refuge. The map is misleading in that regard, and I believe is not suggesting that all DU projects on public land are huntable, merely that they were completed on public lands that are at least in some form or fashion open to hunting.
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Old 10-28-2015, 05:39 PM
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Thanks for clarifying that Smalls.
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Old 10-28-2015, 05:43 PM
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Thanks for clarifying that Smalls.
The terraces over around Green's Lake are the DU project. For some reason everyone got big on terraces, and very few of them ever amounted to much. I'm not as familiar with those as I am with some of the other DU terrace projects, but the ones I am familiar with were mildly successful. The area between the terraces did seem to become some what more shallow and less turbid, but no real development of SAVs to speak of. A few areas developed on some, but other than that, nothing. Its been a few years since I've been around some though. Mottled ducks seemed to like them though. Jumped a few off of terraces nesting in the marsh hay that had been planted.
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The terraces over around Green's Lake are the DU project. For some reason everyone got big on terraces, and very few of them ever amounted to much. I'm not as familiar with those as I am with some of the other DU terrace projects, but the ones I am familiar with were mildly successful. The area between the terraces did seem to become some what more shallow and less turbid, but no real development of SAVs to speak of. A few areas developed on some, but other than that, nothing. Its been a few years since I've been around some though. Mottled ducks seemed to like them though. Jumped a few off of terraces nesting in the marsh hay that had been planted.
Oh I'm aware. I just think some aren't.

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Old 10-28-2015, 05:59 PM
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Ive seen and killed more birds in the last two years than any other I have hunted. I'm not that old but I started when I was 7 so I hope that counts for something. But the last two winters were probably the coldest I remember as well. As good as the hunting was, the amount of birds in VBay, Marsh Island, Rockefeller, mind blowing. One morning I drove from the 4 mile to the point and didn't go 30 seconds without scaring up another flock. My brother flys over Marsh Island every day and he said every lake was black with birds. The sanctuaries were packed to the gills. I have to think that hunting pressure plays a bigger role in the mix than everyone would like to admit. High dollar leases are high dollar because they usually don't have 3 other blinds in gun range. Just because there aren't birds where you are hunting doesn't mean there aren't birds down here.

Louisiana has been third in rice production behind Arkansas and California, during my lifetime anyway. Over the years Arkansas has substantially increased its amount of acreage while Louisiana's decreased but that has nothing to do with DU. They could spend their entire budget creating and preserving wetlands in Louisiana but the ducks are never going to see it if they are fat and happy in Arkansas, especially during a mild winter. The last two winters where pretty chilly and I'd classify my last two hunting seasons a excellent to exceptional.

The problem isn't DU. The problem is there are too many hogs for the trough. Organizations like the CCA and DU survive because their members donate. More members means more money. Their survival is dependent upon getting more people to hunt and fish. There all ready too many as it is, thats why I don't have any desire to support either. I realize my point of view is completely selfish but I am not into community hunting and fishing. I am content to be an a$$hole.
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Ive seen and killed more birds in the last two years than any other I have hunted. I'm not that old but I started when I was 7 so I hope that counts for something. But the last two winters were probably the coldest I remember as well. As good as the hunting was, the amount of birds in VBay, Marsh Island, Rockefeller, mind blowing. One morning I drove from the 4 mile to the point and didn't go 30 seconds without scaring up another flock. My brother flys over Marsh Island every day and he said every lake was black with birds. The sanctuaries were packed to the gills. I have to think that hunting pressure plays a bigger role in the mix than everyone would like to admit. High dollar leases are high dollar because they usually don't have 3 other blinds in gun range. Just because there aren't birds where you are hunting doesn't mean there aren't birds down here.

Louisiana has been third in rice production behind Arkansas and California, during my lifetime anyway. Over the years Arkansas has substantially increased its amount of acreage while Louisiana's decreased but that has nothing to do with DU. They could spend their entire budget creating and preserving wetlands in Louisiana but the ducks are never going to see it if they are fat and happy in Arkansas, especially during a mild winter. The last two winters where pretty chilly and I'd classify my last two hunting seasons a excellent to exceptional.

The problem isn't DU. The problem is there are too many hogs for the trough. Organizations like the CCA and DU survive because their members donate. More members means more money. Their survival is dependent upon getting more people to hunt and fish. There all ready too many as it is, thats why I don't have any desire to support either. I realize my point of view is completely selfish but I am not into community hunting and fishing. I am content to be an a$$hole.

This pretty much covers it all.....Top Dawg and Aubrey, yall can PM each other if you want to keep on going. LOL
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Ive seen and killed more birds in the last two years than any other I have hunted. I'm not that old but I started when I was 7 so I hope that counts for something. But the last two winters were probably the coldest I remember as well. As good as the hunting was, the amount of birds in VBay, Marsh Island, Rockefeller, mind blowing. One morning I drove from the 4 mile to the point and didn't go 30 seconds without scaring up another flock. My brother flys over Marsh Island every day and he said every lake was black with birds. The sanctuaries were packed to the gills. I have to think that hunting pressure plays a bigger role in the mix than everyone would like to admit. High dollar leases are high dollar because they usually don't have 3 other blinds in gun range. Just because there aren't birds where you are hunting doesn't mean there aren't birds down here.

Louisiana has been third in rice production behind Arkansas and California, during my lifetime anyway. Over the years Arkansas has substantially increased its amount of acreage while Louisiana's decreased but that has nothing to do with DU. They could spend their entire budget creating and preserving wetlands in Louisiana but the ducks are never going to see it if they are fat and happy in Arkansas, especially during a mild winter. The last two winters where pretty chilly and I'd classify my last two hunting seasons a excellent to exceptional.

The problem isn't DU. The problem is there are too many hogs for the trough. Organizations like the CCA and DU survive because their members donate. More members means more money. Their survival is dependent upon getting more people to hunt and fish. There all ready too many as it is, thats why I don't have any desire to support either. I realize my point of view is completely selfish but I am not into community hunting and fishing. I am content to be an a$$hole.
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