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[T-TOP]

GCCA is now CCA.... You guys should know this, changed the name to include east and west coast.


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["W"]

Originally Posted by T-TOP

GCCA is now CCA.... You guys should know this, changed the name to include east and west coast.


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No no No No No

This was a whole diffrent organization not even ran by the same system !!

GCCA was branched for The Gulf coast only

Once they were not funded heavy they then hired all these bootleggers and turned it into a money making operation

They have a great read on both and how it became somewhere on the web , think it was posted on RodnReel.com a year or so ago


They were two different teams

[T-TOP]

Originally Posted by "W"

No no No No No



This was a whole diffrent organization not even ran by the same system !!



GCCA was branched for The Gulf coast only



Once they were not funded heavy they then hired all these bootleggers and turned it into a money making operation



They have a great read on both and how it became somewhere on the web , think it was posted on RodnReel.com a year or so ago





They were two different teams

I would like to read it. I remember when they took the G off the sticker.. Same logo just took the G off and kept the CCA. I had some of the old stickers for years after..


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["W"]

Originally Posted by T-TOP

I would like to read it. I remember when they took the G off the sticker.. Same logo just took the G off and kept the CCA. I had some of the old stickers for years after..


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I will try to find it this week , almost sure it was on RodnReel

It was way more than taking he G off I promise

Like they said it was all new leadership change and went from almost zero politics to 100% politics in matter of a year



CCA is like Eron

You pay for a fee and you have a chance to get someone in return ( if lucky ) but all the profits are not posted public and you never see any progression

Without the lottery STAR CCA is nothing


They have a great money scheme in place to collect with little to none overhead

[T-TOP]

Originally Posted by "W"

No no No No No



This was a whole diffrent organization not even ran by the same system !!



GCCA was branched for The Gulf coast only



Once they were not funded heavy they then hired all these bootleggers and turned it into a money making operation



They have a great read on both and how it became somewhere on the web , think it was posted on RodnReel.com a year or so ago





They were two different teams

In 1984 GCCA created the national umbrella organization called the CCA. Due to the east and west coast requests for joining. CCA was created when you were about 4yrs old.


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[simplepeddler]

The diiference is the client Dub........you are smart enough to know that........

["W"]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

The diiference is the client Dub........you are smart enough to know that........

So explain how it makes it any diffrent ?

If I give you my fish or a guy who just paid me $600?

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by "W"

So explain how it makes it any diffrent ?

If I give you my fish or a guy who just paid me $600?

this is exactly the "grey" area that is being targeted for clarity

[OnePunchRex]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

The diiference is the client Dub........you are smart enough to know that........

Evidently not

[specknation]

A lot of the guides are down in total trout catches statewide, so let's hang CCA from a flag pole. Understand I am not a CCA member, but blaming them for a subpar trout season is just WRONG and for lack of better term just stupid.

["W"]

Originally Posted by specknation

A lot of the guides are down in total trout catches statewide, so let's hang CCA from a flag pole. Understand I am not a CCA member, but blaming them for a subpar trout season is just WRONG and for lack of better term just stupid.

I just had a 250 comment Facebook debate this week

The east side still blames BP for slow trout fishing
Lmao

I bet less than 1% of any trout alive during the oil spill is still alive

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by "W"

I just had a 250 comment Facebook debate this week

The east side still blames BP for slow trout fishing
Lmao

I bet less than 1% of any trout alive during the oil spill is still alive

oil spill affected habitat maybe?

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

oil spill affected habitat maybe?

I doubt it. There were several studies attempting to connect the oil spill with speckled trout condition, reproduction, etc.

They were negative. The oil spill is a convenient target, but the careful science doesn't show any real link or even any problem with the trout on the E side of the state. They had a cold weather and a slow start, just like SW LA, but is was the weather rather than an anthropogenic factor.

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

I doubt it. There were several studies attempting to connect the oil spill with speckled trout condition, reproduction, etc.

They were negative. The oil spill is a convenient target, but the careful science doesn't show any real link or even any problem with the trout on the E side of the state. They had a cold weather and a slow start, just like SW LA, but is was the weather rather than an anthropogenic factor.

Makes sense............arguing points are rarely factual in thier entirity

[eman]

Actually the net ban was pushed by SOS. (save our specks) Before they banded w/ other states to become GCCA. I was a volunteer back then. After the gill nets were banned then cca came along. CCA had NOTHING to do w/ the ban on gill nets,

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by eman

Actually the net ban was pushed by SOS. (save our specks) Before they banded w/ other states to become GCCA. I was a volunteer back then. After the gill nets were banned then cca came along. CCA had NOTHING to do w/ the ban on gill nets,

names changed
did leadership?

[simplepeddler]

and.........I think your are splitting hairs on the "perfectly" legal..........I know fish have traditionally not been a huge topic of enforcement....but ducks on the other hand........you damn well better have your toast together.

With the intensity of the ARS..........we are going to see more and more enforcement where you are not going to be easily able to split hairs

["W"]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

and.........I think your are splitting hairs on the "perfectly" legal..........I know fish have traditionally not been a huge topic of enforcement....but ducks on the other hand........you damn well better have your toast together.

With the intensity of the ARS..........we are going to see more and more enforcement where you are not going to be easily able to split hairs

You are 100% right ducks are a whole diffrent ball game

But fish are not

I actually believe the whole state including big lake goes by the 25 fish possession law
Not 100% on that but I think I read that a person can have up to 2 daily possession limits (25per person) which means if true 50 cleaned trout per person instead of 30 state wide

I will have to recheck but I believe it's read like that

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by "W"

You are 100% right ducks are a whole diffrent ball game

But fish are not

I actually believe the whole state including big lake goes by the 25 fish possession law
Not 100% on that but I think I read that a person can have up to 2 daily possession limits (25per person) which means if true 50 cleaned trout per person instead of 30 state wide

I will have to recheck but I believe it's read like that

Ducks are federal.........sound familiar......with the ARS?

But the law reads the same on possesion limits.........if you get caught opening day with more than a days limit.....you are screwed......

same with fish in and out of season.........

I admit I'm not a "limit" guy anymore......but I was for years..........
I just don't like the taste of frozen anymore.....

I am not making some emotional plea to take a guides limit away......just don't think it's impossible to see them taken away ........and I don't think it's unreasonable.........

It has to be sustainable or you will be taking people on gafftop trips.......

It was the alligator poachers who are highly credited with saving the alligator population

It will be the guides and captains that will need to take the lead to save our fisheries........arguably they may not need saving right now........

What I can tell you all, is that if you go to bat with the feds the way you go to bat here.......you will not be taken reasonably........unreasonable people are treated unreasonably

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

Ducks are federal.........sound familiar......with the ARS?

But the law reads the same on possesion limits.........if you get caught opening day with more than a days limit.....you are screwed......

same with fish in and out of season.........

I admit I'm not a "limit" guy anymore......but I was for years..........
I just don't like the taste of frozen anymore.....

I am not making some emotional plea to take a guides limit away......just don't think it's impossible to see them taken away ........and I don't think it's unreasonable.........

It has to be sustainable or you will be taking people on gafftop trips.......

It was the alligator poachers who are highly credited with saving the alligator population

It will be the guides and captains that will need to take the lead to save our fisheries........arguably they may not need saving right now........

What I can tell you all, is that if you go to bat with the feds the way you go to bat here.......you will not be taken reasonably........unreasonable people are treated unreasonably

Saving the fisheries is about the habitat, not about the stocks. THere are plenty of spotted seatrout, redfish, etc. There is zero evidence of overfishing, but there is lots of evidence of habitat degradation.