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Gonna have to pair it with some bell-bottoms.....
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So I guess David was wrong when asked God to guide his stone when he took down Goliath? Not a modern weapon, but a weapon none the less. Turning the other cheek is good but not when it means losing your life for it. I have a family that relies on me to come home every day and also to protect them in every way necessary. We will all leave this world when our time comes. It isn't our job to speed things up by allowing someone else to decide when that is.
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Renegade ponder this long and hard. I pray it never happens but if it did would your last though be God I'm coming or God I want to live?
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Jesus Christ himself struggled with giving up his own life. He had the power to destroy Pontius Pilate and everybody else. But, he didn't. He was obedient and gave up his life because something more beneficial was on the other side. If I was truly a Christian - truly Christ-like - I hope I'd have the faith to know God's will is better than mine. I would hope to be like the faithful servant Job: Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him. - Job 13: 15 KJV |
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To think that God is not a warrior is nuts. To think that God does not approve of self defense is nuts. The bible has so many passages that show that defense of ones self and others is justified. Cowering like a beaten dog is not looked well upon. God is a warrior of the utmost degree. Michael and Gabriel were two of Gods fighters.
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However: 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Last edited by Renegade; 08-14-2015 at 12:14 AM. |
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Vengeance and self protection are two completely different things brother
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Yall can quot the " book" all yall want there's a passage that will cover every point of view!! Cause there all out of content read a page or two before or after your "quotes and no the real meaning" then it all makes sense before just posting random points that fit your agenda!!!
Yall would be surprised what you can learn |
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9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: Isaiah 28: 9 - 10Hmmm. Line upon line. Precept upon precept. 21Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.Enough said. |
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You just quoted two different books!! So pick a book and read and understand it for yourself not what someone tells you to believe!!! You do know that was 8 books wrote into one?? And it's been reworked a ton of times over the centery's to fit"peoples needs" that's way people took the long boat ride from Europe to come to the new world!! I pry every night nothing ever bad happens to mine, or any of my salty Cajun family, that anyone ever has to protect there self. But taking random quotes out of a book to fit your agenda don't work for me! And yes I said two pages either way maybe you need to read ten pages before and after your quote!! Bty what happened to the ten comments?? If you believe in them then there's no worry about somone walking in your church shooting or your wife ever cheating on you!!! |
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[QUOTE=Renegade;768684]If you have a clearer understanding, you're welcome to provide it. Evidence to back your opinion helps. It may be required.
9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: Isaiah 28: 9 - 10Hmmm. Line upon line. Precept upon precept. 21Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.Enough said.[/QUOTE So you got 9 and 10 right, and skip to 21?? That's my point there's a quote to fit everyones needs. Not saying your better then me or I am better then you!! To each there own! That's whats wrong with this country now we left Europe, ( before it was the middle east) For religious freedom ! Now I bet you don't know ten people that have been to his birth place, or crufication site. That's a life changing experience!! Try it before you quote just what you here in church and quote random passages that you take out of context!!! |
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Andy and Duck, I agree with you 1000%. Folks love to quote bits and pieces of scripture to suit their opinion. |
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Agree, so yall have fire drills at your place of worship ? If not yall should, seeing how yall have that many people. Smoke and fire kills waymore people in panic then guns. We have real candles in my church so fire is a real threat that scares me, being a fireman, and now there's drills just out of the blue, and everyone knows what to do/ where to go. Not just panic and stampead to the closest exists I understand your church is way larger, and a fire is worse then a firearm show down, but it should be part of every house,school,church,place of work to practice a fire or shooting. Cause mass panic kills!! More then fire or a shooter ! Just something yall might consider in yalls training or to maybe put in it to be more effective if a threat ever dose happens prying it never does to anyone. But have seen what happens when everyone is not on the same page and panic hits, wither a family of 3 or ten thousand, hopefully you can incorporate that into your house and your place of worship. |
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People can handle their faith anyway they want to. I just know that if anyone puts me or my family in danger things are going to get bad fast. I'll talk to the good Lord about it afterwards.
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Times a 1000% but not going to go looking for it. |
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