How would you rank 2012 spec trout season?

[TarponTom]

http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.s...out_probl.html

[ckinchen]

Interesting article, my friends (some of which are guides) in the Grand Isle area all share similar thoughts to those in the article. That being said in my opinion fishing in Big Lake has been very good. It has slowed some in August but that is not unusual.

[meaux fishing]

That's exactly what we don't need.... Guides trying to lower the limit

[inchspinner]

There is no shortage of trout in BL..... As far as the pole that could vary on what you target.... Big trout or numbers....ive seen both good but from the past it seemed that the big trout population has gotten smaller andyou dont see the 9-10lb trout like ive heard about in the 90s and early 2000s....jmo...

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by meaux fishing

That's exactly what we don't need.... Guides trying to lower the limit

Not to open this can of worms again becuse I could care less but the statewide limit was being lowered to 15 before the spill and they decided to take a wait and see approach. Two people on this site in the know have already confirmed this....

Should be intresting.

[TarponTom]

I think the Big Lake area wasn't hit as hard as Breton Sound, Barataria Bay, Terrebone Bay, Shell Beach, Lake Borgne, Grand Isle, Venice, Louisiana Marsh WMA, etc. The menhanden fishery is noticeably absent this year as well. Areas were we have cast-netted for adult menhaden for the last 40 years were completely barren this year which is troubling to me.

[Salty]

Nobody has any "proof" to support whether it's because of the oil spill, or not, because there's not even "proof" that the fishing is down. Like Marshall noted....it could be the fishermen. If they push this....the guides will end up getting a reduced limit. Book that!

[Duck Butter]

This is gonna go on forever and we will never have all the answers, I personally feel like the dispersant was worse than the oil. There are studies out there showing this as well. Our government ordered the spraying of dispersants, not BP

I would like to hear more opinions from other guides, it seems like just down the road in Dularge they are having an incredible year. If there is going to be something done I hope it is done with some scientific merit

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Salty

Nobody has any "proof" to support whether it's because of the oil spill, or not, because there's not even "proof" that the fishing is down. Like Marshall noted....it could be the fishermen. If they push this....the guides will end up getting a reduced limit. Book that!

Yep

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by Salty

Nobody has any "proof" to support whether it's because of the oil spill, or not, because there's not even "proof" that the fishing is down. Like Marshall noted....it could be the fishermen. If they push this....the guides will end up getting a reduced limit. Book that!

Agreed.

[specktator]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

This is gonna go on forever and we will never have all the answers, I personally feel like the dispersant was worse than the oil. There are studies out there showing this as well. Our government ordered the spraying of dispersants, not BP

I would like to hear more opinions from other guides, it seems like just down the road in Dularge they are having an incredible year. If there is going to be something done I hope it is done with some scientific merit

x2 on dispersants

["W"]

#1 BP oil spill has had ZERO Effects but hell we all know scientific data dont count
#2 Hurricanes have tripled our fishing on our side
#3 Big Lake is over populated by the number of small trout soon to be Grand Isle little brother soon with millions of baby trout
#4 This is not Texas

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

#1 BP oil spill has had ZERO Effects but hell we all know scientific data dont count
#2 Hurricanes have tripled our fishing on our side
#3 Big Lake is over populated by the number of small trout soon to be Grand Isle little brother soon with millions of baby trout
#4 This is not Texas

I don't want this to go into the Gill Net but this is just ridiculous

There is STILL oil in La marshes RIGHT NOW, going to a conference Thursday and one of the speakers is talking about it, I will let you know more on it. Its scientific data also

["W"]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

I don't want this to go into the Gill Net but this is just ridiculous

There is STILL oil in La marshes RIGHT NOW, going to a conference Thursday and one of the speakers is talking about it, I will let you know more on it. Its scientific data also

Really.....Damn there is oil on Hollybeach....Cameron Marshes and all of Hackberry Marshes...

SO your saying what????

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by "W"

Really.....Damn there is oil on Hollybeach....Cameron Marshes and all of Hackberry Marshes...

SO your saying what????

Stop..... This is going in a positive direction right now.

["W"]

Originally Posted by "W"

#1 BP oil spill has had ZERO Effects but hell we all know scientific data dont count
#2 Hurricanes have tripled our fishing on our side
#3 Big Lake is over populated by the number of small trout soon to be Grand Isle little brother soon with millions of baby trout
#4 This is not Texas

Originally Posted by "W"

Really.....Damn there is oil on Hollybeach....Cameron Marshes and all of Hackberry Marshes...

SO your saying what????

Originally Posted by ckinchen

Stop..... This is going in a positive direction right now.

110% scientific Stated FACTS....JUST SAYING

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

110% scientific Stated FACTS....JUST SAYING

There is oil from the BP Macondo 2010 oil spill in portions of Barataria Bay RIGHT NOW, that is scientific fact. Don't want this in the gill net, be nice

not talking a few tar balls

[meaux fishing]

Originally Posted by TarponTom

I think the Big Lake area wasn't hit as hard as Breton Sound, Barataria Bay, Terrebone Bay, Shell Beach, Lake Borgne, Grand Isle, Venice, Louisiana Marsh WMA, etc. The menhanden fishery is noticeably absent this year as well. Areas were we have cast-netted for adult menhaden for the last 40 years were completely barren this year which is troubling to me.

What areas? I saw huge schools of big menhaden in Barataria in the beginning of June and July. It is my opinion that everything is early this year due to the weather. The guides know this but they see this as a way to A) get more BP money or B) try to get the limit reduced or both.

[meaux fishing]

I think the guides that aren't catching what they are used to are either lying or they don't know how to adapt to changing weather conditions.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by meaux fishing

I think the guides that aren't catching what they are used to are either lying or they don't know how to adapt to changing weather conditions.

I agree with both your posts, we had a good haul of trout in the marsh while we were targeting reds in July. There were huge schools of pogies in the deeper canals of the marsh and on the west side of Caminada Bay.