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You need to check your ego, and get back to the Lord!!! |
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I will find a new church or leave it in the truck!! |
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By the way, cc,what is conceived as a threat to your church, law abiding people are not the one's to worry about!!!
Crazy are crazy and they don't get there guns legal!! So how do you tell the difference?? |
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I don't know the layout of CC's church but this is the downside I see against a no carry policy. Things go bad one Sunday morning and people are running scared. One of his team members takes a round or is just pinned down and in a bind. Other members of the team are trying to wade through a crowd of scared people to come help. You are only ten feet away but had to leave your gun in the truck.
CC's point is even though you are only ten feet away you better know how to shoot. His down team member signed up for the job and knew what he was getting into. Ms. Betty at her Sunday service didn't sign up for it and doesn't need to eat a hollow point feom a wana be hero. I think proven you are good enough to be allowed to carry is not unreasonable also being allowed to carry after you prove a certain skill level isn't an unreasonable thing to expect either. Granted a small church versus a large church is a completely different scenqrio |
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Or yall profile every one that walks in?? You know they can't even do that at airports!!!seems like your looking for a reason to show your force!!!
We all respect what your trying to do and doing but dareing New members get off your ego trip!!!!! |
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Duckman, I agree it's way to easy to get a cc permit!!! Not that you should not be able to get one but should be tougher shooting qualifications like knowing how to use your gun!! Other then pulling the trigger at ten yards and hiting a paper 3 out of 9 shots!!
It was his repeated dare to se what happens at his church if you don't know his church rules and carry!! That's got me hot!! |
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Cc, yall say yall don't profile I guess?? But yall train alot you said,, ever train with paintballs in the church with2000+ people trying to exist out of 4-10 exists with a shooter in blocking one or more of the exists???? I respect what your trying to do, but bet yall never did that in your church??
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I'm not daring anyone to do anything. I am talking with a young man that insists he knows the law. I have tried explaining it to him every way I know how. If he is so sure of his knowledge, I simply invited him to prove it. I am absolutely positive of my knowledge on this. Using a private home and neighbors to give permission is ludicrous. The Priest or Pastor does not own the church, the bouncer does not own the bar, the deputy does not own a business, they can all insist that you leave, and have the authority to remove you. I'm not on an ego trip, simply trying to educate a hardheaded youngster. If the only way he understands is "show and tell" so be it.
"CC, yall say yall don't profile I guess??" Andy, please show me where I said that. Then tell me what group doesn't profile. |
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I am 36, and understand what your saying, but you did say pm. You and you would give the address to a couple different people here, and you said" see what happens" and " bring bail money" to both of them!! How's that not a power or ego trip??
Say me and my family came to your church(leave mine in the truck as asked) and something happens to Me or one of my family members who is responsible??? You? The security team? Or the church?? |
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I am responsible for my family!!!
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Yall are so well trained?? But yall never semulited that!! I don't care how good you can shoot when you get layed down by the panic your useless!! Now hopefully you train with your church members and they all know there mustered /evacuation rout for what puw there sitting in, same as a fire drill?? Or yall do do that either?? Just mass cacous running to the closest door or over people cause that's the way everyone else is going!!! Been a ff to long and seen it happen to many times. Twice to clear that up only one was a church.
What I am and have been trying to say is you can have the best team in the world but if "your people" ( I feel the same) don't know what to do it's useless even if yall got 20 guys |
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WOW,,,131 comments and going strong....My opinion ,,which don't mean much,,,I go to church every Sat. afternoon...When they got to have armed person's to protect me it's time for me to stay home....Criminal's don't abide by the law,,,plain n simple....You can get shot anywhere you go,,,plain n simple....My cousin got shot in high school at 13....For no reason...They just got dumb @** people in this world....So you have to have security at church...Well then armed security at your kids school....I guess you don't go shop unless there's armed security....Or go eat out unless you greeted at the door with someone holstering a sidearm....Never saw an AK at a gas station so don't stop and buy gas....God knows you gunna get shot at burger king so don't stop there....No security...Yes you have to be concerned about what can happen but you can't let it take over your life or you will have no life...Stuff gunna happen and if a crazy wants to shoot up a church he gunna come in blaze'n and there probly aint much you gunna do unless you standing next to him and don't get shot first............
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How many fire drills do yall do?? Every family, church school should do one , 3 times a year!!! Fire/panic kills way more people then guns!!! |
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