Concealed Carry Discssion

[mr crab]

Yeah. I was scared ****less

[marty f]

On another note. In LA It is not illigal to carry a gun in your vehicle, CCP or not. BUT if you are stopped please keep you hands on the wheel and inform the officer you have a gun inthe car.

The few times Ive had to deal with popo in my truck i hand the my DL and CCP, they all have been cool about it, but they dont like ""surprises""

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by Goooh

Seems blurry to me, carry where you will and stop something if you can, and I bet nobody bats an eye at whether you shouldn't be carrying there.

Kill or injures an innocent bystander with an off shot in one of those grey areas and I'll bet you get a legal anvil dropped on you along with the gun supporting community.

I think you are 100% correct....

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by marty f

Ive almost shot my friends wife one night at 3am.......... this is where your training comes into play. Just because some weekend course allows you to carry a gun dosent me you have the abilty to properly carry one.

PLEASE PLEASE if anyone here is thinking about getting a CCP please take a REAL course, and then continue to retrain. I have an exstinsive back ground in the subject, with well over 30+ years, and i just signed up for yet another course.

Heres the real deal, YOU ARE TAKING SOMEONES LIFE. You dont want to make a mistake. Whether your in the right or in the wrong you life will change, Ive seen it first hand how it affects people.

The qualification course to get a permit is a damn joke. I think Stevie Wonder could pass if he was pointed in the right direction. I think something like a USPSA course would be a lot better thing. Always mix in some no shoot targets.

[eman]

Originally Posted by marty f

Ive almost shot my friends wife one night at 3am.......... this is where your training comes into play. Just because some weekend course allows you to carry a gun dosent me you have the abilty to properly carry one.

PLEASE PLEASE if anyone here is thinking about getting a CCP please take a REAL course, and then continue to retrain. I have an exstinsive back ground in the subject, with well over 30+ years, and i just signed up for yet another course.

Heres the real deal, YOU ARE TAKING SOMEONES LIFE. You dont want to make a mistake. Whether your in the right or in the wrong you life will change, Ive seen it first hand how it affects people.

THIS^^^^^ Before you decide to buy a weapon and take the carry course YOU need to have a soul searching and make damn sure that if and when the need arises , You can kill another human being?

Yes, we all talk a big game and say , no problem. But when it comes down to the nut cutting .Can you and will you do it?
Been many a rookie both LEO and military that passed the training w/ flying colors but they froze the first time s--t got real.

If you decide that yes i can and you take the CC course don't stop there, take some tactical courses . decide how you are going to conceal and practice getting your weapon from concealed to a firing position.
When i say practice i mean over and over . your are creating muscle memory . My instructor says 1000 times of drawing the weapon then 1000 times of drawing and going to firing position then the same by drawing, safety off, hammer back, firing position.
make sure that you practice with the weapon that you will carry w/ it fully UNLOADED!
I have watched guys use this technique go from an average shooter to drawing from concealed and having the first round on target in less than 2 seconds.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by eman

THIS^^^^^ Before you decide to buy a weapon and take the carry course YOU need to have a soul searching and make damn sure that if and when the need arises , You can kill another human being?

Yes, we all talk a big game and say , no problem. But when it comes down to the nut cutting .Can you and will you do it?
Been many a rookie both LEO and military that passed the training w/ flying colors but they froze the first time s--t got real.

If you decide that yes i can and you take the CC course don't stop there, take some tactical courses . decide how you are going to conceal and practice getting your weapon from concealed to a firing position.
When i say practice i mean over and over . your are creating muscle memory . My instructor says 1000 times of drawing the weapon then 1000 times of drawing and going to firing position then the same by drawing, safety off, hammer back, firing position.
make sure that you practice with the weapon that you will carry w/ it fully UNLOADED!
I have watched guys use this technique go from an average shooter to drawing from concealed and having the first round on target in less than 2 seconds.

Snap caps are great for dry fire drills and reload drills. Especially if using a weapon with a single stack mag. Using a shot timer set on random beeb will also help speed up your draw response time. Not that everyone should rush out to buy one but they do help. I would set my timer on 3 seconds and do draw fire reload drills. Of course I was using my competition set up not my cc rig. You are absolutely right that constant practice is needed and a lot of it can be done without burning a bunch of $ in ammo.

[marty f]

The course im taking in oct two weapons are required along with 1000 rnds minimum

im taking 9s a 45 and my home defense 870 with 18in barrel

[duckman1911]

That's gona be a fun course marty

[scd]

Can you guys recommend some tactical classes to attend? Instructors etc.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by scd

Can you guys recommend some tactical classes to attend? Instructors etc.

Look for a USPSA gun club near you. That is a fun way to learn a lot about tactical shooting. You will usually find a lot of highly trained LE and military guys that are always willing to share advice to make you a better shooter. If nothing else it will help you with shooting under stress. It's fun and a good way to get better.