Elephant in room

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by Clampy

I take no sides. I just point out that there is 2 of them.

I agree, there are 2 sides but it looks like we are mostly hearing the politically correct side.

[Clampy]

I have seen the media criticized in this thread for trumping up stories and yet this is the information that everyone is using to formulate their opinions.
If it bleeds it leads. That's how it's always been.
Truth it is a subset of individuals that are responsible for the rioting and looting not the whole mass.

Black or white people like that are garbage.

Those are the stories you see not the others.

Remember all those babies raped in the Superdome for Katrina.

Oh yeah that's right it never happened. Screw the media.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by eman

Smoked a lot of weed back in the day and never heard any animals talk.

Lmao.... That was funny
Maybe you just had bad weed? Lol

[Clampy]

Lot of tokes under my belt also and never heard animals talk.
Did hear a bag of oreos talk to me once though.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Clampy

I have seen the media criticized in this thread for trumping up stories and yet this is the information that everyone is using to formulate their opinions.
If it bleeds it leads. That's how it's always been.
Truth it is a subset of individuals that are responsible for the rioting and looting not the whole mass.

Black or white people like that are garbage.

Those are the stories you see not the others.

Remember all those babies raped in the Superdome for Katrina.

Oh yeah that's right it never happened. Screw the media.

You form an opinion based on known information. Correct? As new information is gathered you stay with or change your original opion. Correct?
Aren't you the one that just a few posts ago said you saw two thugs in this story? On what information did you draw that conclusion? Surely it wasn't because of something you heard on the news or read on social media. That stuff is all trumped up right?

[Clampy]

Yeah. You right. Sorry for being retarded.

[Clampy]

I was merely pointing out what ever opinion we form is going to be based in lies.
Non of us live there and can't see it happen. Yeah sure you can see it in clips of the worst or best moments.
My opinion is flawed just like everyone's.

[Clampy]

Here you go.
Saw this on social media.
Changed my mind.

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[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Clampy

I was merely pointing out what ever opinion we form is going to be based in lies.
Non of us live there and can't see it happen. Yeah sure you can see it in clips of the worst or best moments.
My opinion is flawed just like everyone's.

I agree. We only get to see or read what they want us to. Based on what I know I know that I would have used my weapon if it was me. I don't know everything though.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Clampy

Here you go.
Saw this on social media.
Changed my mind.

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I feel bad for the people that are having businesses destroyed. I also don't understand why the owners aren't protecting their business. That happens around my neck of the woods and there would be 4x4s parked bumber to bumber and everyone would be locked and loaded. You want to protest go ahead and do it. You F up someones property and you will look like you went through a meat grinder when the shooting stops.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

I feel bad for the people that are having businesses destroyed. I also don't understand why the owners aren't protecting their business. That happens around my neck of the woods and there would be 4x4s parked bumber to bumber and everyone would be locked and loaded. You want to protest go ahead and do it. You F up someones property and you will look like you went through a meat grinder when the shooting stops.

I can get on board with that.

[duckman1911]

Just a quick thought.
I think paying LE more and not allowing anyone under 30 to be a cop may help. Pay more because a person at 30 has more bills (as a general rule). At 30+ you have lived some and have also had a job hopefully. You know good people have bad days. By 30 you have already wanted to pull your boss' head off. Prolly more than once. You also know more about how to talk to people and help deescalate a situation. I know I made worse desicions in my 20s than I do in my 30s. They put out a 21 year from the academy and he has a badge and a gun. He doesn't even know what life is yet. He's just a kid that thinks he looks all pumped because of his bullet proof vest.
In my experience with LE the best ones have always been with the 30+ year old guys. They know lifes a beech and some days just arent good.

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Just a quick thought.
I think paying LE more and not allowing anyone under 30 to be a cop may help. Pay more because a person at 30 has more bills (as a general rule). At 30+ you have lived some and have also had a job hopefully. You know good people have bad days. By 30 you have already wanted to pull your boss' head off. Prolly more than once. You also know more about how to talk to people and help deescalate a situation. I know I made worse desicions in my 20s than I do in my 30s. They put out a 21 year from the academy and he has a badge and a gun. He doesn't even know what life is yet. He's just a kid that thinks he looks all pumped because of his bullet proof vest.
In my experience with LE the best ones have always been with the 30+ year old guys. They know lifes a beech and some days just arent good.

Makes good sense.

[eman]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Just a quick thought.
I think paying LE more and not allowing anyone under 30 to be a cop may help. Pay more because a person at 30 has more bills (as a general rule). At 30+ you have lived some and have also had a job hopefully. You know good people have bad days. By 30 you have already wanted to pull your boss' head off. Prolly more than once. You also know more about how to talk to people and help deescalate a situation. I know I made worse desicions in my 20s than I do in my 30s. They put out a 21 year from the academy and he has a badge and a gun. He doesn't even know what life is yet. He's just a kid that thinks he looks all pumped because of his bullet proof vest.
In my experience with LE the best ones have always been with the 30+ year old guys. They know lifes a beech and some days just arent good.

+1

[alphaman]

The justice system isnt fair at all imo
Justice is not blind at all.... justice can see clear as day!

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by alphaman

The justice system isnt fair at all imo
Justice is not blind at all.... justice can see clear as day!

Yoy are LE correct? If so I would like to hear more of your opinion and FFF. We may not agree completely but it could be a great tool for all of us to get a look at the other side and leave with a new understanding of both sides.

[alphaman]

I really dont get into all of this stuff. I think that officer, whether he was write or wrong he will get off with no problem.

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by alphaman

I really dont get into all of this stuff. I think that officer, whether he was write or wrong he will get off with no problem.

If he was wrong I hope he doesn't get off!!!

[alphaman]

Originally Posted by Dogface

If he was wrong I hope he doesn't get off!!!

True but they will figure out away to clear him.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Just a quick thought.
I think paying LE more and not allowing anyone under 30 to be a cop may help. Pay more because a person at 30 has more bills (as a general rule). At 30+ you have lived some and have also had a job hopefully. You know good people have bad days. By 30 you have already wanted to pull your boss' head off. Prolly more than once. You also know more about how to talk to people and help deescalate a situation. I know I made worse desicions in my 20s than I do in my 30s. They put out a 21 year from the academy and he has a badge and a gun. He doesn't even know what life is yet. He's just a kid that thinks he looks all pumped because of his bullet proof vest.
In my experience with LE the best ones have always been with the 30+ year old guys. They know lifes a beech and some days just arent good.

I like it.