In Today's Paper

[Purple Back]

I am confused, did we accomplish what we were trying to accomplish?

[jpeff31787]

have no clue buddy. i'm not to good at understanding all that political jargon there.

[meaux fishing]

not really...restricted the number of boats for 3 yrs and the limit is 25 sacks per boat/day...still dredging

["W"]

this really did not solve anything......IMO..
we need to kill dredging .......and that will kill the boats

[Purple Back]

I am reading it correctly, 63 boats per year? So if we did not have dredging, you do not think they would fill the 63 permits?

25 sacks seems like a lot. But maybe not, I never harvested oysters, so I am having a hard time visualizing how much that really is.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Purple Back

I am reading it correctly, 63 boats per year? So if we did not have dredging, you do not think they would fill the 63 permits?

25 sacks seems like a lot. But maybe not, I never harvested oysters, so I am having a hard time visualizing how much that really is.

If you cut out dredging and go to tong only.......You would not have 63 boats on the water....... 40-50 max

the free loader lazy oystermen are not going tong

[cmdrost]

didn't really accomplish a dang thing. Took about 50-100 boats off the water, but thats about it.

ETA - and the 25 sacks is set by LDWF. They are the only ones who can change that.

[jchief]

SUMMARY OF HOUSE AMENDMENTS TO THE SENATE BILL
1. Authorizes the Commission to set oyster harvest limits on Calcasieu Lake.
2. Changes provisions relating to issuance of special permits by allowing for the
issuance of only 126 permits each year to harvest oysters on Calcasieu Lake.
3. Adds that after July 1, 2014, no special permit will be required to harvest
oysters on Calcasieu Lake.
4. Provides that harvest limits on Calcasieu Lake shall be such that each
permittee may harvest up to 25 sacks per day from one, and only one,
licensed vessel. Further provides that one and only one permittee may
harvest from each licensed vessel per day and no vessel shall be used for
more than one trip per day.
5. Makes technical changes to the penalties for illegal oyster harvesting on
Calcasieu Lake.
6. Removes provisions relative to the transferability of special permits.
DIGEST OF THE SENATE BILL AS RETURNED TO THE SENATE
Present law allows oyster harvesting in Calcasieu Lake using tongs; a hand dredge; a single
dredge with mechanical assist that has a tooth bar no more than 36 inches long; or use of a
single scraper with mechanical assist and a flat bar length of no more than 36 inches.
Proposed law prohibits oyster harvesting in Calcasieu Lake except by special permit issued
by the DW&F and provides harvest limits for recreational fishermen on Calcasieu Lake.
Proposed law provides that between July 1, 2011 and June 2014, oyster harvesting in
Calcasieu Lake requires a special permit issued annually by the Dept. of Wildlife and
Fisheries. Limits the number of permits to 126 permits each year. 63 of the permits will be
issued to a person who can prove through trip ticket landings that he commercially harvested
oysters from Calcasieu Lake any time since January 1, 2001. The remaining 63 permits may
be issued to any person.
Proposed law provides that the permits will be issued on a first-come-first-served basis
determined by the date the application is received by the department. Further provides that
once 126 permits have been issued, there shall be no more issued that year. The commission
shall promulgate rules to delineate the procedures by which the permits shall be issued.
Present law sets the season for oyster harvesting in Calcasieu Lake beginning between Oct.
15 and Nov. 1 each year and ending April 30. Authorizes the Commission, with input
from the Louisiana Oyster Task Force, to open or close the season based on biological data
and to manage East Cove and West Cover separately. Proposed law changes the advising
body from the Louisiana Oyster Task Force to the Calcasieu Oyster Task Force.
Present law allows the commission to set the harvest limit not exceed 25 sacks of oysters per
day per licensed vessel after consideration of recommendations by the Louisiana Oyster
Task Force. Further allows recreational fishermen to harvest oysters.
Proposed law authorizes the commission to set the harvest limit, after consultation with the
Calcasieu Oyster Task Force so that each permittee may harvest up to 25 sacks per day from
one, and only one, licensed vessel. Further provides that one and only one permittee may
harvest from each licensed vessel per day and no vessel shall be used for more than one trip
per day. Sets the harvest limit for recreational fishermen to 1 sack per person per day.
Present law provides that any violation of the present law will be a class 4 violation subject
to the penalties contained in R.S. 56:34.
Proposed law changes present law and provides that a violation of any provision of this
present law or of any W&F Commission regulation pertaining to taking, possessing,
recording or reporting of landings or selling oysters from Calcasieu Lake will constitute a
Class 4 violation. In addition, the offender will also be penalized as follows:
(1) 1 offense - the offender shall forfeit any permit to harvest for oysters on Calcasieu
Lake and be barred from obtaining such permit for the remainder of the period for
which it was issued plus 1 year, during which time the offender will be barred from
participating in any oyster harvesting activity on Calcasieu Lake.
(2) 2 offense, the offender shall forfeit any Calcasieu Lake oyster permit issued to him
and be barred from obtaining a Calcasieu Lake oyster permit for the remainder of the
period for which it was issued plus 2 years, during which time the offender shall be
barred from participating in any oyster harvesting activity on Calcasieu Lake.
(3) 3 offense, the offender shall forfeit any Calcasieu Lake oyster permit issued to him
and be permanently barred from obtaining a Calcasieu Lake oyster permit and from
participating in any oyster harvesting activity on Calcasieu Lake.
Proposed law provides that any person who participates in the fishery while barred will be
penalized under the provisions of a Class 7-B violation.
Effective upon signature of the governor or lapse of time for gubernatorial action.

(Amends R.S. 56:435.1.1)

[jchief]

There will be 123 permits issued.

[DUCKGOGETTER]

I tell you what i have tonged for oysters with someone before. Did it for about 2 hours and said man bring me back to my truck. That seperates the men from the boys. Imo this didn't accomplish anything.

[Raymond]

NFC, figure out the acronym for yourself!

[meaux fishing]

at least the penalties got stricter...

[CrazyD]

I would love to see dredging ended but I don't think it will ever happen

["W"]

Dredging will end...but when it does its going to be way too late.....you can not take and take and take with out re seeding!!!!

[cmdrost]

Originally Posted by "W"

Dredging will end...but when it does its going to be way too late.....you can not take and take and take with out re seeding!!!!

The way our state & LDWF seems to operate! They don't act until its too late.

["W"]

But...good side is....they will be shut down for at least 10 years,,,with no oysters on the lake at all...simple tongs would save it...have to do it the hard way

[Raymond]

Here is an idea that might work; what if someone dropped house blocks around the reefs? Wouldn't that make it difficult to drag something along the bottom????????????????

["W"]

U got 5000 house blocks

["W"]

Just get a ban of boats and sit on the reef....don't move....

[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Here is an idea that might work; what if someone dropped house blocks around the reefs? Wouldn't that make it difficult to drag something along the bottom????????????????

LOL, I was thinking driving T-post would be interesting.