Gun ban list

[Harley123]

http://rense.com/general85/obs.htm
dont like this one bit

[RickLafayette]

It looks like the list of guns Eric Holder allowed to go over the Mexican border in his Fast and furious debacle.

P.S. One of which killed a United States Border Patrol Agent.

[SULPHITE]

This is bad bad....I am willing to protest

[Wag]

A ban on assault weapons is not the end of the world for gun owners, just those that want an assault weapon for whatever reason.

[flounder_smacker]

Originally Posted by Wag

A ban on assault weapons is not the end of the world for gun owners, just those that want an assault weapon for whatever reason.

what is a assault weapon defined as?

[rustyb]

Originally Posted by flounder_smacker

what is a assault weapon defined as?

You hit that right on the head. And they are unfortunately, fixin to define it for us!

[Wag]

Originally Posted by flounder_smacker

what is a assault weapon defined as?

The former ban was this: from Wikipedia

"Criteria of an assault weapon

Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', changes the classification from an assault weapon to a Class 3 weapon; merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant such classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again; they do not fire automatically like a machine gun; rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.[2]
In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:


A semi-automatic Yugoslavian M70AB2 rifle.


An Intratec TEC-DC9 with 32-round magazine; a semi-automatic pistol formerly classified as an Assault Weapon under Federal Law.
Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine."

[iron man]

This sucks...

[flounder_smacker]

So basically guns that look dangerous? Assault weapons are whatever they want them to be. What is banning these weapons really going to do? The market is already flooded with high cap mags and semi auto rifles. Are we supposed to give these guns up?

["W"]

Glad I have my guns

[flounder_smacker]

It's safe to say that there are millions of "assault" weapons currently in the us. And I'm sure there are going to be quite a few sold before this ban takes place. 8 months from now when some other mentally I'll goes out and slaughters people with a banned weapon then what? Guns are not the problem. People are.

[Wag]

Originally Posted by flounder_smacker

It's safe to say that there are millions of "assault" weapons currently in the us. And I'm sure there are going to be quite a few sold before this ban takes place. 8 months from now when some other mentally I'll goes out and slaughters people with a banned weapon then what? Guns are not the problem. People are.

I agree, people are the problem, they do the killing, but what weapon is their choice, an assault weapon. How many of these mass killings have been with a Browning Bolt action rifle or Remington 1100? Making assault weapons illegal to buy may just keep one idiot from walking into a gun shop or gun show and purchasing one to carry out another crazy act like CT. Wouldn't that be worth the ban? To me it would be, and I love my guns, but we got to start somewhere. There are a lot of other areas that need addressing also, mental illness and helping those in need would be another, Violence on TV and some of these video games our kids play everyday, another ....

[mcjaredsandwich]

Originally Posted by Wag

I agree, people are the problem, they do the killing, but what weapon is their choice, an assault weapon. How many of these mass killings have been with a Browning Bolt action rifle or Remington 1100? Making assault weapons illegal to buy may just keep one idiot from walking into a gun shop or gun show and purchasing one to carry out another crazy act like CT. Wouldn't that be worth the ban? To me it would be, and I love my guns, but we got to start somewhere. There are a lot of other areas that need addressing also, mental illness and helping those in need would be another, Violence on TV and some of these video games our kids play everyday, another ....

1) video games have a recommended rating. When you have a 10 year old playing a mature rated game, that's bad parenting.

2) mcvey used a uhaul truck packed with fertilizer to kill a whole lot of people. Do you see uhauls and fertilizer banned?

[SULPHITE]

Your crazy if you don't understand this is the path to eventually demonize your 1100 and bolt action browning.

[flounder_smacker]

Originally Posted by Wag

I agree, people are the problem, they do the killing, but what weapon is their choice, an assault weapon. How many of these mass killings have been with a Browning Bolt action rifle or Remington 1100? Making assault weapons illegal to buy may just keep one idiot from walking into a gun shop or gun show and purchasing one to carry out another crazy act like CT. Wouldn't that be worth the ban? To me it would be, and I love my guns, but we got to start somewhere. There are a lot of other areas that need addressing also, mental illness and helping those in need would be another, Violence on TV and some of these video games our kids play everyday, another ....

he didn't buy the weapons used in the shooting. he took them from his parents gun cabinet. people wanting to do harm will find a way. i do believe that there needs to be a stricter screening process for owning any firearm and more for owning a "assault weapon". banning them just will keep the honest people from buying one.

[Wag]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

1) video games have a recommended rating. When you have a 10 year old playing a mature rated game, that's bad parenting.

2) mcvey used a uhaul truck packed with fertilizer to kill a whole lot of people. Do you see uhauls and fertilizer banned?

Uhauls weren't banned but the The Secure Handling of Ammonium Nitrate Act of 2007 required the licensing of ammonium nitrate facilities and registration for buyers.

[Wag]

Originally Posted by SULPHITE

Your crazy if you don't understand this is the path to eventually demonize your 1100 and bolt action browning.

It didn't happen before, ain't going to happen again.

["W"]

Drunk driver killed a innocent person ( Obama is placing a ban on all vehicles )

[Wag]

Originally Posted by flounder_smacker

he didn't buy the weapons used in the shooting. he took them from his parents gun cabinet. people wanting to do harm will find a way. i do believe that there needs to be a stricter screening process for owning any firearm and more for owning a "assault weapon". banning them just will keep the honest people from buying one.

Where did I say that he did?

[Wag]

Originally Posted by "W"

Drunk driver killed a innocent person ( Obama is placing a ban on all vehicles )

and alcohol