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Old 06-28-2012, 12:43 PM
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So if i own a small company that right now pays or partial pays for my employees health insurance . I can now get off cheaper by saying screw my employees. Cancel the insurance, put them on the govt dole (which is what this whole thing is meant to do ) and pay the fine of $750 per employee per year .
Yep and I wonder what the Company's CPA will advice them to do.
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YEP, 40% of my income is from health insurance. If my clients decide to drop their group health policies, I will effectively be out of business.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:50 PM
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Yep and I wonder what the Company's CPA will advice them to do.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:56 PM
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I won't and can't go on record about this for several reasons. But I will say that I will advice my clients to do what is best for their shareholders and puts the most money in their pockets which is always the advice that I give. Any paid advisor that does not do such is not fulfilling their fiduciary duty to their clients. I also personally believe it will take a significant turn of events for our current president not to be here in four years. This four year term in my opinion will be much harder on the southern states and conservatives than his first four years. I suspect he will use his special executive powers (that does not require a vote from the other branches) to push through very radical ideas with no consequence of having to ever be re-elected again. Buckle up America, it will be a very trying time.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:59 PM
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My largest group pays close to $100,000 per year for their employees health insurance coverage. Can't remember what the fine is but lets use $2500.00 per employee x 25 employees = $50,000 reduction, what would you do??? This will effectively push everyone into govt run health care because actuarially, for profit companies cannot operate at a loss but the govt does it everyday!
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:01 PM
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:27 PM
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My largest group pays close to $100,000 per year for their employees health insurance coverage. Can't remember what the fine is but lets use $2500.00 per employee x 25 employees = $50,000 reduction, what would you do??? This will effectively push everyone into govt run health care because actuarially, for profit companies cannot operate at a loss but the govt does it everyday!
And we all know how well the government run facilities are doing. I mean just look at the VA's.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:30 PM
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1.USA's bond rating will be lowered(AGAIN) if "The One" is reelected
2.Unemployment will rise to +10% if "The One" is reelected
3.The market will tank like no one has ever seen if "The One" is reelected
4.The second amendment will be circumvented by EO(Executive Order) if "The One" is reelected
5.America will be no different than any 3rd world $hithole by 2025 if "The One" is reelected
6.We will see another Revolution after the first 5 occur and our country will look more like the former Soviet Union when it's over.

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Old 06-28-2012, 01:35 PM
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what needs to be done is every one who get free money from irs at the end of the year becauce they have 12 kids and no job shouldnt get crap.all the money we give them would help this country turn around.no more free money well let me refrase that no more tax payers money.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:42 PM
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The federal government will get just what they wanted with this health care act. To push more American people to be dependent on the federal government.
Employers will push employee's off there insurance rolls and state's will push medi- participants over to federal government for health insurance. The federal government will raise taxes, print more money and sale bonds to foreign governments to pay for the new federally mandated socialist welfare program. The higher taxes will push even more people to depend on the federal government by means of loss of jobs and lower income due to higher taxation. Socialism in the making people.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:43 PM
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what needs to be done is every one who get free money from irs at the end of the year becauce they have 12 kids and no job shouldnt get crap.all the money we give them would help this country turn around.no more free money well let me refrase that no more tax payers money.
I agree but that helps to "buy" votes....
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:05 PM
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I really really have a feeling Mitt is gonna come out on top. The election in 2010 showed that people were ticked off at the dems and came out and voted for real change. Romney has the chance to be Reagan (because he is essentially running against the worst pres ever just like Carter), and their is tons and tons of ammunition out there against Obama. Obama can NOT run on his record. Its going to be a tough run, but Mitt will come out on top and get this country back right. That is what he did at bain Capitol - he found the weakest links in companies and turned em around, exactly what the US needs.

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Old 06-28-2012, 03:09 PM
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I have some personal feelings and have been doing a lot of reading / research .
IMO If around the end of August ,the first of September if the obama administration feels that they are going to lose the election something will happen to allow the POTUS to declair martial law or a national state of emergency and suspend ALL elections.
This will garauntee him 4 more years in this spiral to socialism.
I have an idea of what is going to happen and if it does ,it will swing the liberals, independents and democrats that are on the fence back to his side.
I will not state what i think will happen as i really don't feel like a visit from the guys in dark suits and sunglasses. But if it happens , it will happen on U.S. soil and will be totally made up and staged just to give him a reason to shut down the elections.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:57 PM
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I have some personal feelings and have been doing a lot of reading / research .
IMO If around the end of August ,the first of September if the obama administration feels that they are going to lose the election something will happen to allow the POTUS to declair martial law or a national state of emergency and suspend ALL elections.
This will garauntee him 4 more years in this spiral to socialism.
I have an idea of what is going to happen and if it does ,it will swing the liberals, independents and democrats that are on the fence back to his side.
I will not state what i think will happen as i really don't feel like a visit from the guys in dark suits and sunglasses. But if it happens , it will happen on U.S. soil and will be totally made up and staged just to give him a reason to shut down the elections.

This scenario is possible. The O and his radical handlers are certainly capable of this type situation.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:03 PM
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NASA is Run by Muslims.....What else can go wrong
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:17 PM
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I have some personal feelings and have been doing a lot of reading / research .
IMO If around the end of August ,the first of September if the obama administration feels that they are going to lose the election something will happen to allow the POTUS to declair martial law or a national state of emergency and suspend ALL elections.
This will garauntee him 4 more years in this spiral to socialism.
I have an idea of what is going to happen and if it does ,it will swing the liberals, independents and democrats that are on the fence back to his side.
I will not state what i think will happen as i really don't feel like a visit from the guys in dark suits and sunglasses. But if it happens , it will happen on U.S. soil and will be totally made up and staged just to give him a reason to shut down the elections.
You mean something like what 9/11 did for Bush ?
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:24 PM
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You mean something like what 9/11 did for Bush ?

Your question is open and could go in many directions. Care to narrow your meaning?
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:49 PM
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NASA is Run by Muslims.....What else can go wrong

By the way, muslims are exempt, as well as congress, from Obamacare!
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:31 PM
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You mean something like what 9/11 did for Bush ?
Please elaborate........
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