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Old 03-27-2016, 10:41 AM
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These days the republicans and the democrats are just 2 different cheeks on the same butt. They are both scared to death that when trump gets into the white house that the first thing he will do is kick that butt to the curb. No more million dollar pay offs from lobbyist. No more under the table funding from foreign governments who they claim every day that are our enemies. No more puppet master string pulls by the Rothschild , soros etc. No more talk of the UN and the NWO. Trump is their worst nightmare,
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Old 03-27-2016, 12:14 PM
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These days the republicans and the democrats are just 2 different cheeks on the same butt. They are both scared to death that when trump gets into the white house that the first thing he will do is kick that butt to the curb. No more million dollar pay offs from lobbyist. No more under the table funding from foreign governments who they claim every day that are our enemies. No more puppet master string pulls by the Rothschild , soros etc. No more talk of the UN and the NWO. Trump is their worst nightmare,
Please.

There is no candidate more beholden to the financiers than Donald Trump. All of his wealth has been funded by them. Don't let his claim of not using campaign funds fool you.

The only way the influence of the Rothchilds and their cronies can be ended is if we close the Federal Reserve, pay off our debt, and change the way political campaigns are financed. Even that would only weaken their influence, not really end it.

Doesn't matter though, because it's not going to happen even under Trump. Trump is a con man and you're a mark if you've fallen for his schenanigans. He's as bad as Bernie Sanders. Almost nothing he says can actually be done.
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Old 03-27-2016, 04:06 PM
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Please.

There is no candidate more beholden to the financiers than Donald Trump. All of his wealth has been funded by them. Don't let his claim of not using campaign funds fool you.

The only way the influence of the Rothchilds and their cronies can be ended is if we close the Federal Reserve, pay off our debt, and change the way political campaigns are financed. Even that would only weaken their influence, not really end it.

Doesn't matter though, because it's not going to happen even under Trump. Trump is a con man and you're a mark if you've fallen for his schenanigans. He's as bad as Bernie Sanders. Almost nothing he says can actually be done.
So you would prefer Hillary? Lets support whoever runs against her even if it isn't our 1st choice.
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Old 03-27-2016, 04:50 PM
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So you would prefer Hillary? Lets support whoever runs against her even if it isn't our 1st choice.
I will NOT be supporting Hillary. That's for sure.

I don't know what I'm going to do.

I didn't vote in the last Presidential election. That was the first time I was able to vote and didn't vote. Didn't think I could be more disgusted with both sides than I was then. I was wrong.
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Old 03-27-2016, 06:55 PM
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I will NOT be supporting Hillary. That's for sure.

I don't know what I'm going to do.

I didn't vote in the last Presidential election. That was the first time I was able to vote and didn't vote. Didn't think I could be more disgusted with both sides than I was then. I was wrong.
Everybody on here is disgusted, Hillary equals Obama in a dress, more of the same, expand socialism, redistribute "your" wealth to those not working & trample on your 2nd Amendment Rights. Your other choice is Trump, pick your poison.
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:40 PM
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So when he says "we want to make it as easy as possible for the Mexicans to come into the US and get a work visa" how does that end up? They come over here now on work visa's & when they expire they stay & turn into illegals & have kids which are now US citizens, so we can pay for them, Really?
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:50 PM
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Everybody on here is disgusted, Hillary equals Obama in a dress, more of the same, expand socialism, redistribute "your" wealth to those not working & trample on your 2nd Amendment Rights. Your other choice is Trump, pick your poison.
If the RNC does not give the nomination to either Trump or Cruz, they will give the election to HELLary. But with that said, I have read so many times the RNC is willing to throw the election rather then have Trump or Cruz. They are in self preservation mode, at least with HELL in the office they can weather 4 more years, they are finished with T or C

I am afraid this is going to be our fate
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Old 03-27-2016, 08:08 PM
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If the RNC does not give the nomination to either Trump or Cruz, they will give the election to HELLary. But with that said, I have read so many times the RNC is willing to throw the election rather then have Trump or Cruz. They are in self preservation mode, at least with HELL in the office they can weather 4 more years, they are finished with T or C

I am afraid this is going to be our fate
Hope for an indictment, the Justice Dept. indicated they would be done by Jan. 15 on their investigation of her, fixin to head into April & we still haven't heard anything, what's that about? Constitution guarantees 3 seperate branches of gov't - Legislative, Executive & Judicial. Wonder how much the Executive Branch is trying to influence the Judicial Branch in her case?

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Old 04-26-2016, 07:23 PM
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Time for a celebration, DJT projected winner in Pennsylvania, Maryland, & Connecticut. The Kasich & Cruz collusion backfired. Ha!
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:12 PM
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Trumps immigration policy as it refers to Mexican Americans, should probably be altered to allow those with proven income, non violent or not convicted of multiple felony violations illegals to remain,and have a chance to become US tax paying citizens, but if you can't meet that criteria, you gotta go. Just sayin the logisticts of deporting 11 to 20 million people & allowing the good ones to come back in, really, just deport the violators

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Old 04-26-2016, 09:47 PM
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Donald was a social liberal until recently, 60 years on earth and he miraculously changed his stance 180 just in time to run as president.

But he will build a wall so it must be goos


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Old 04-26-2016, 09:55 PM
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Donald was a social liberal until recently, 60 years on earth and he miraculously changed his stance 180 just in time to run as president.

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When DJT questioned Obama's birth certificate that's when the shat hit the fan, that sparked Trump after Obama ridiculed him in public. Until that time he had no motivation to run for POTUS, and I respect that. That's when the shat hit the fan!! How would you like to be ridiculed by that worm?
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:03 PM
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And the logistics of determining who stays and goes will become a nightmare.....
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:19 PM
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And the logistics of determining who stays and goes will become a nightmare.....
Agreed, it's gonna be a nightmare no matter how they do it, but it still needs to be addressed, and Trump's the one that brought that point to the fore front.
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:33 PM
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The worse thing that can happen in November is to elect. Hillary...I don't trust, believe, respect, or like anything about DJT, but even though I don't drink, I think I'll have to have 2-3 shots of Jack Daniels before I vote. Just don't want to ever admit that I voted for him of sober mind.
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:36 PM
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The worse thing that can happen in November is to elect. Hillary...I don't trust, believe, respect, or like anything about DJT, but even though I don't drink, I think I'll have to have 2-3 shots of Jack Daniels before I vote. Just don't want to ever admit that I voted for him of sober mind.
So what's your fear? Just asking.
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Old 04-26-2016, 11:05 PM
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DJ Trumps ability to compromise and still further an agenda which is based on the Constitution, ie; By the people & for the people, rather than Hillary's recent quote of "We (citizens) need to support the gov't" pretty much limit our choices IMO The F'in gov't is supposed to support Our majority agenda!

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Old 04-27-2016, 07:02 AM
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So what's your fear? Just asking.
That he will not do what he says he will. That he will not put a constitutionalist on the supreme court which in my opinion is the most important job the next POTUS will have, because if we lose that, then we'll lose all. 2) that due to his arrogance he will not seek or use sound advice, but go his way or the highway and therefore not be able to help our economy grow, 3) That he won't do anything about our immigration problem, because he'll see the need to compromise with big business to keep cheap labor. 4) That he won't get rid of govern health care and return to the free enterprise system. 5) that he won't do anything about the run away welfare and entitlements that are the genesis of our need for cheap labor. 6 that he helps the left continue to forward their leftist agenda, because he likes to compromise. He has no moral compass on which to base decisions, its all about compromise and getting a deal done.

Listen, I will vote for him if he is the nominee, and I hope to God I am wrong and come come back on here in two years and say you were right, but he just seems to me to be very untrustworthy, unbelievable, and as much of a chameleon as Bill Clinton was.
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Old 04-28-2016, 10:40 PM
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That he will not do what he says he will. That he will not put a constitutionalist on the supreme court which in my opinion is the most important job the next POTUS will have, because if we lose that, then we'll lose all. 2) that due to his arrogance he will not seek or use sound advice, but go his way or the highway and therefore not be able to help our economy grow, 3) That he won't do anything about our immigration problem, because he'll see the need to compromise with big business to keep cheap labor. 4) That he won't get rid of govern health care and return to the free enterprise system. 5) that he won't do anything about the run away welfare and entitlements that are the genesis of our need for cheap labor. 6 that he helps the left continue to forward their leftist agenda, because he likes to compromise. He has no moral compass on which to base decisions, its all about compromise and getting a deal done.

Listen, I will vote for him if he is the nominee, and I hope to God I am wrong and come come back on here in two years and say you were right, but he just seems to me to be very untrustworthy, unbelievable, and as much of a chameleon as Bill Clinton was.
Valid concerns, I'd settle for 5 out of 6, Number 5 - good luck with that one.
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Old 04-28-2016, 10:41 PM
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That he will not do what he says he will. That he will not put a constitutionalist on the supreme court which in my opinion is the most important job the next POTUS will have, because if we lose that, then we'll lose all. 2) that due to his arrogance he will not seek or use sound advice, but go his way or the highway and therefore not be able to help our economy grow, 3) That he won't do anything about our immigration problem, because he'll see the need to compromise with big business to keep cheap labor. 4) That he won't get rid of govern health care and return to the free enterprise system. 5) that he won't do anything about the run away welfare and entitlements that are the genesis of our need for cheap labor. 6 that he helps the left continue to forward their leftist agenda, because he likes to compromise. He has no moral compass on which to base decisions, its all about compromise and getting a deal done.

Listen, I will vote for him if he is the nominee, and I hope to God I am wrong and come come back on here in two years and say you were right, but he just seems to me to be very untrustworthy, unbelievable, and as much of a chameleon as Bill Clinton was.
Valid concerns, I'd settle for 5 out of 6, Number 5 - good luck with that one. That's gonna take somebody with some balls!
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