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Old 09-13-2013, 02:06 PM
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It's official. Oct 1-14. We might get 4 days if we are lucky with the Oct weather.

https://www.facebook.com/GulfCouncil...581296212555:0
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:46 PM
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Yeah and I'm sure they'll try to say we caught two million lbs over for next year too
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Prob so. Take a look at this. Interesting read.
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Conservationists applaud legislation to let Gulf states manage red snapper


WASHINGTON, DC (9-12-2013) – A bipartisan coalition led by Rep. Jeff Miller (R-Fla.) and Rep. Cedric Richmond (D-La.) introduced legislation today that charts a new course for management of Gulf red snapper, an important commercial and recreational fishery that has been plagued by controversy. Joining Miller and Richmond as original co-sponsors of the Gulf of Mexico Red Snapper Conservation Act were Reps. Charles Boustany (R-La.); Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.); Blake Farenthold (R-Texas); Bob Latta (R-Ohio); Pete Olson (R-Texas); Steven Palazzo (R-Miss.); Mike Rogers (R-Ala.); Steve Scalise (R-La.); Austin Scott (R-Ga.); Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.); Tim Walz (D-Minn.); Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.), and Rob Wittman (R-Va.). The legislation comes after the governors of four Gulf states released a joint letter to the U.S. House and Senate leadership stating that federal management of Gulf red snapper is “irretrievably broken,” and calling for a coordinated Gulf states partnership for red snapper management.

In a sign of broad support for the concept of state-based management of fish and wildlife resources, the entire leadership of the Congressional Sportsmen’s Caucus has signed on to the bill. Reps. Latta, Thompson, Walz and Wittman, all co-chairs of the CSC and most representing districts in states far from the Gulf Coast, have seen the need for a change in how federal fisheries are managed.

“Federal management of red snapper has painted itself into a corner. We have a robust red snapper population in the Gulf, but 2013 was as chaotic a season as anglers have ever seen. The season started as the shortest ever, saw a revolt by some states that resulted in even shorter seasons, endured a lawsuit, received a glowing stock assessment and the promise of a fall season, only to crash on wild estimates of overharvest that put the fall season in jeopardy. This is no way to manage a fishery, and this legislation presents a way out of this no-win situation,” said Jeff Angers, president of the Center for Coastal Conservation.

“Congressman Miller is a true champion of American anglers for taking the lead on this legislation. His leadership brings a reliable, workable solution that allows the Gulf states to better manage red snapper conservation.”

Federal management of red snapper has been broken for years, and reached rock bottom in 2013 when frustration over status quo management compelled several Gulf states to seek greater control of the fishery in their own waters. In retaliation, the National Marine Fisheries Service used an emergency rule process to reduce the recreational season to nine days off Louisiana and 12 days off Texas. Both states sued and a federal court overturned the action.

“The reality is that federal management of the Gulf of Mexico recreational red snapper fishery is fundamentally flawed, and it is negatively impacting anglers and the coastal economies that depend on access to that fishery,” said Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation President Jeff Crane. “State-based fishery management has proven to be far more effective, and has engineered some of the greatest marine conservation victories in the country. We are grateful that the Gulf Governors, Reps. Miller, Richmond and the CSC co-chairs are working to give states back the authority to manage this situation.”

The Gulf of Mexico Red Snapper Conservation Act would establish a coordinated Gulf states partnership for red snapper management through which the states would fully comply with a management plan approved and adopted by the Gulf States Marines Fisheries Commission. The partnership would be similar to how the Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission manages striped bass and how the Gulf states manage red drum.

“There are many examples where a shift to state-based management of a given fishery resource has been called for, producing better results,” said Mike Nussman, president and CEO of the American Sportfishing Association. “State fish and wildlife management professionals have a strong track record of managing their fishery resources in order to achieve the right balance between sustainability and quality fishing opportunities. The ongoing red snapper debacle in the Gulf is begging for the opportunity to put proven state-based management approaches to work.”

Comments offered today by other coalition leaders:
Coastal Conservation Association - Pat Murray, President
“This is a fishery that has been defined by crisis for decades, and there is nothing that leads one to believe it is likely to change given the current tools and philosophy of federal management,” said Patrick Murray, president of the Coastal Conservation Association. “This legislation provides an opportunity to break the cycle of crisis management with a viable alternative, and we applaud Rep. Jeff Miller and Rep. Cedric Richmond for their vision crafting a workable solution.”

Guy Harvey Ocean Foundation - Steve Stock, President
“The current management regime for Gulf red snapper is unpredictable and ineffective,” said Guy Harvey Ocean Foundation President Steve Stock. “Rep. Miller’s legislation will allow the Gulf states to build fair, predictable red snapper management that will ensure Gulf anglers have reasonable access to this important resource.”

International Game Fish Association - Rob Kramer, President
“Anglers were the first conservationists,” said Rob Kramer, president of the International Game Fish Association. “State-based management – closest to the constituency managed – has a proven track record for conservation.”

National Marine Manufacturers Association - Thom Dammrich, President
“Uncertainty in fisheries management translates to uncertainty for fishing-dependent business,” said National Marine Manufacturers Association President Thom Dammrich. “Rep. Jeff Miller’s leadership in addressing the red snapper issue will mean that marine manufacturers, marine dealers, marina operators, and the many businesses that rely on stable saltwater fisheries will have greater opportunities for success.”
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What will happen next year????? This one has been a total mess!!!!! With all the last minute changes and holding federal permits it has been difficult to set up trips. I can not see buying into the federal catch shares program and cutting the throats of the recreational fishermen that keep me working.
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I wish!
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I will be there thursday through sunday with another friend and his boat. Group of 9 of us going.

However, weather is looking crappy. Not sure if I will even be able to make it offshore but we already have camp so we are gonna go put our eyes on the gulf and see what it looks like.
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I'm planning on running out in the morning. Later in the week does look questionable.
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I won't be able to make it out till Sunday or next week sometime... I hope the weather is good but I'm not expecting anything
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Weather after wednesday looks bad.
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Weather after wednesday looks bad.
Yup we might have to scratch our trip Saturday!
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Yup we might have to scratch our trip Saturday!
There goes almost half the season. We will prob catch 1 million pounds over quota anyway.
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Yup we might have to scratch our trip Saturday!
Unfortunately, we had to cancel our trip for the weekend.

Sucks!
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:44 PM
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Wednesday - Friday NOAA is predicting 1' or less.
We will be on the water when the sun comes up Wednesday and will fish through Saturday unless we get burned out or fill up the meat chests.

Anyone else going to be out there?
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Federal water aren't closed cause of the shutdown?
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Lol.... I hope you aren't serious
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Don't try to burst my bubble like that Dink!

I didn't get an email or letter so I guess I will find out at the marina!
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I wouldn't put it past them......

But to answer, no
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Below is the Marine forecast for the Gulf 20-60 miles South of Grand Isle.
It looks pretty good but I have one question:
- I usually fish offshore during the summer when the wind is coming out of the south or southwest. I have never been out with an East wind like this. Does an East wind usually make for a rougher boat ride or a choppier gulf or should it not make a difference?

As you see from my handle we are in a pretty undersized boat so we pay close attention to these details.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

[SIZE=4][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]SYNOPSIS...[/SIZE]AS THE REMNANTS OF FORMER TROPICAL STORM KAREN MOVE
OFF THE FLORIDA COAST...HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE COASTAL
WATERS FROM THE NORTH. THIS RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL SHIFT
EAST DURING THE WEEK.

COASTAL WATERS FROM PORT FOURCHON TO LOWER ATCHAFALAYA RIVER FROM
20 TO 60 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM THE SOUTHWEST PASS OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
TO PORT FOURCHON FROM 20 TO 60 NM-

[SIZE=4]TODAY[/SIZE]
NORTH WINDS 10 TO 15 KNOTS. SEAS 3 TO 4 FEET.

[SIZE=+1] TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY[/SIZE]
NORTHEAST WINDS 5 TO 10 KNOTS. SEAS 1 TO
2 FEET.

[SIZE=+1] WEDNESDAY NIGHT[/SIZE]
EAST WINDS 5 TO 10 KNOTS. SEAS 1 TO 2 FEET.
SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS.

[SIZE=+1] THURSDAY[/SIZE]
EAST WINDS NEAR 10 KNOTS. SEAS 1 TO 2 FEET.

[SIZE=+1] THURSDAY NIGHT[/SIZE]
SOUTHEAST WINDS 10 TO 15 KNOTS. SEAS 1 TO
2 FEET. SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS.

[SIZE=+1] FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT[/SIZE]
EAST WINDS NEAR 10 KNOTS. SEAS 1
TO 2 FEET. SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS SATURDAY
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