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Old 07-27-2011, 02:05 PM
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Not sure, I do know it's way more than I want to pick up. I really have no clue. It's an Alweld 16x48 with front deck and rear bench.

If your Alweld 16X48 is the VEE LA model then we have the same hull. Not sure but a guess for a stripped down hull weight would be 450 to 550 lbs.
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:53 PM
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Ok I did alittle more looking and I have learned somthin new on this, I was looking at 4-stroke setup not 2 stroke. The reed is used to replace the valves found in a 4 stroke, but I think that the deal on the new engine as far as changing reeds is gona be a differnce of old jets vs new has injectors. I am sure someone will find a way to trick cpu and then find a way to open air intake, run bigger injectors and open exhaust but its alittle more involved then the older motor where you just change a few parts and make adjustments with screw driver.

You're talking serious cash with cpu work and bigger injectors. If you want to hop up a motor a tldi isn't for you. Get a merc 40 or a tohatsu with carbs on it. The days of hopping up new outboards is pretty much over. Buy a new motor, put a tach on it and prop it right and work on the setup. The fuel efficiency a new motor gets should make up for not being able to hop it up.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:00 PM
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Where on th motor is this restrictor i have a Nissan 40 that's on a 16x36 wellbuilt an it cruises really good!!! I would like to check this out see what kinda of power i will get....
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:54 PM
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Where on th motor is this restrictor i have a Nissan 40 that's on a 16x36 wellbuilt an it cruises really good!!! I would like to check this out see what kinda of power i will get....
I would run by Lake Area Marine and talk to a guy in the shop
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:14 AM
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The restrictor trick doesn't work with all motors correct?......
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:38 AM
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The restrictor trick doesn't work with all motors correct?......
only ones I have heard of doin this on is the TLDI motors, what motor are you wanting to try something on
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:14 AM
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It's a 2001 Nissan 40 made buy tahotsua it's a carborated motor there are 3 cylinders on it
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:52 AM
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It's a 2001 Nissan 40 made buy tahotsua it's a carborated motor there are 3 cylinders on it
different animal, you can change carbs, reeds and exhaust work and get more power pretty easy. I work with a guy that has same motor as yours on a 1648 rebuilt that runs 47ish, the motors we are talkin bout are the new fuel injected TLDI motors.
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K i will keep that I'n mine I'm running about 35 maybe 40 buy my self it's pretty legit I'n shallow water also
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Old thread I found in a google search engine i want to revive.

I've got a 2010 Tohatsu 50 hp TLDI short shaft tiller handle on a 2011 15x52 alweld Vee La model.
Stock aluminum 11.1x14 aluminum prop on GPS is 39.1 mph.

I'm bringing this thread back to life because i want to know can i yank this restrictor plate out my intake and get more ponies out of my 50 motor? I have tried shining in with a light but like how far into the throttle body does this plate/cone go? is this plate in there loosely once you remove the screen?

Can anyone post a picture what this cone looks like once it is removed??

I plan on this summer getting a better prop, someone I know has a few that will let me try out before i buy. I'd really like to see 50mph but not sure it is possible. There is a guy on youtube and boat racing facts that claims he took a 14ft weldbilt with the 50 TLDI and got it to run 63mph with a low water pickup and a clever 12x23.5 prop I think it was if anyone want to know really how fast these motors are.

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Old 01-07-2012, 11:29 PM
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This is by-far one of my favorite threads. It gave me some really good laughs and still is.


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This is by-far one of my favorite threads. It gave me some really good laughs and still is.


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So what you're laughing about is i need to get me a merc? Got news for ya the older 2 stroke Tohatsu when built and probably run faster then the mercs that are built
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:48 PM
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So what you're laughing about is i need to get me a merc? Got news for ya the older 2 stroke Tohatsu when built and probably run faster then the mercs that are built
Get your bloomers out of a wad and read the whole thread and hopefully you will understand. And just a little FYI the older tohatsus won't out a Merc.


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Old thread I found in a google search engine i want to revive.

I've got a 2010 Tohatsu 50 hp TLDI short shaft tiller handle on a 2011 15x52 alweld Vee La model.
Stock aluminum 11.1x14 aluminum prop on GPS is 39.1 mph.

I'm bringing this thread back to life because i want to know can i yank this restrictor plate out my intake and get more ponies out of my 50 motor? I have tried shining in with a light but like how far into the throttle body does this plate/cone go? is this plate in there loosely once you remove the screen?

Can anyone post a picture what this cone looks like once it is removed??
The 50 doesn't have a restrictor. The 40 and 50 share the same block so the 50 is restricted to make a 40.

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So what you're laughing about is i need to get me a merc? Got news for ya the older 2 stroke Tohatsu when built and probably run faster then the mercs that are built
You're saying the carbed 40 tohatsu can be hopped up to make more power than a carbed 40 mercury?
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What do you honestly think the 40 2 stroke merc will produce Max horsepower after you do the 60 carbs and all?
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The 50 doesn't have a restrictor. The 40 and 50 share the same block so the 50 is restricted to make a 40.



You're saying the carbed 40 tohatsu can be hopped up to make more power than a carbed 40 mercury?
Like I said this is my favorite thread. It can make laugh no matter how bad of mood I'm in.


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What do you honestly think the 40 2 stroke merc will produce Max horsepower after you do the 60 carbs and all?
A 40 tohatsu is 45 cubic inches and shares a block with the 50 tohatsu, so the biggest carburetors that can be put on are from a 50. Put the 50 carbs, intake and exhaust and you have a 40 making 50 hp. Got to do port work to get higher. A 59 cubic inch 40 mercury shares a block with a 50 and 60 mercury. Bolt on 60 carbs and intake and you have a 60 hp motor without touching the internals and it makes more torque than a 45 cubic inch motor.

Both are fine motors, but the mercury has more potential.
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A 40 tohatsu is 45 cubic inches and shares a block with the 50 tohatsu, so the biggest carburetors that can be put on are from a 50. Put the 50 carbs, intake and exhaust and you have a 40 making 50 hp. Got to do port work to get higher. A 59 cubic inch 40 mercury shares a block with a 50 and 60 mercury. Bolt on 60 carbs and intake and you have a 60 hp motor without touching the internals and it makes more torque than a 45 cubic inch motor.

Both are fine motors, but the mercury has more potential.
Thanks Scott, I'm gonna end it here before it gets outta hand and becomes a pissing match here. Some people are hardcore merc people but from my research I think maybe a tohatsu can probably produce more then a merc. This I heard from people who are hardcore racers that race mercs who have even said it may come to a point they will switch to a tohatsu because they produce more to win races
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Thanks Scott, I'm gonna end it here before it gets outta hand and becomes a pissing match here. Some people are hardcore merc people but from my research I think maybe a tohatsu can probably produce more then a merc. This I heard from people who are hardcore racers that race mercs who have even said it may come to a point they will switch to a tohatsu because they produce more to win races
Nobody pissing over here. Lol


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Thanks Scott, I'm gonna end it here before it gets outta hand and becomes a pissing match here. Some people are hardcore merc people but from my research I think maybe a tohatsu can probably produce more then a merc. This I heard from people who are hardcore racers that race mercs who have even said it may come to a point they will switch to a tohatsu because they produce more to win races
Ok. I really don't think you can go wrong with either motor, just whatever you're looking for.
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