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Old 06-08-2011, 07:51 PM
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Managed to fight the so called 1 foot waves today to make my way down to the stick up rigs near Johnson Bayou. I think the forecast was way off since most boats were turning around at the jetties. Managed to make our way down near Johnson Bayou in a little over an hour. Hopped around between pencil rigs and was able to land solid trout. Kept 21 all over 20" long. Smallest was 3# and biggest was 4. Not great numbers but the most solid trout I have caught in a long time. Caught on gulp, sand eels, shad and mullet. Caught over 30 reds that we released since we were too far out to keep them. Several over 20#. Tried to fish topwater at the beach but 3 foot waves that looked like pure mud changed our mind. Ended the day with 21 trout, 4 Spanish Mac, and 11 reds caught near the beach. Any yes I did have lots of ice on them and they cleaned great. Any No I was not fishing out of a Haynie.
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:55 PM
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Congrats on the catch.....suprised you made it back safely since you were not in a HINEY......
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:58 PM
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Nice catch man.....glad you iced them
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Old 06-08-2011, 08:00 PM
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Nice mess of fish!!!!!!!
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Old 06-08-2011, 08:34 PM
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Nice report Mr Duhon! Oh, and congrats on the fine catch.

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Old 06-08-2011, 08:37 PM
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Nice catch....and I like the floats on the net...
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:01 PM
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Nice catch man. I'm headed down there this weekend. I must have missed something about covering them in ice. What's the theory on that?
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:16 PM
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Nice catch man. I'm headed down there this weekend. I must have missed something about covering them in ice. What's the theory on that?
Easier to clean!

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Old 06-08-2011, 09:51 PM
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Water and ice or just ice?
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:03 AM
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salt water and ice. Helps take the slime off..
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Old 06-09-2011, 06:35 AM
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let'm get nice and cold on ice. waaay easier to clean.
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:15 AM
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nice catch Cory.....thanks for the phone call!

Whats the story on that trout in the picture with the red lesions? Saw this on rodnreel on offshore fish by Capt Al Walker....He said is conducting a study for NOAA.



[SIZE=3]Dont eat a fish with this on it. You will be risking your life according to NOAA.[/SIZE]
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Nice Fish!!!
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Man nice fish
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Old 06-09-2011, 02:56 PM
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nice catch Cory.....thanks for the phone call!

Whats the story on that trout in the picture with the red lesions? Saw this on rodnreel on offshore fish by Capt Al Walker....He said is conducting a study for NOAA.



[SIZE=3]Dont eat a fish with this on it. You will be risking your life according to NOAA.[/SIZE]
Caught an undersized trout the other day that had some lesions on it. Not sure if this was them or not. Any idea what it is?
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:10 PM
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NOAA confirms sick fish in Gulf
Bacteria present, but no direct link yet to BP oil spill
By Kimberly Blair
The Pensacola News Journal
May 25, 2011
URL: http://www.pnj.com/article/20110525/...sick-fish-Gulf

If you catch a sick fish, NOAA advises anglers to:

» Release the fish back into the water with minimal to no handling. Use a fishhook-remover device. Avoid contact with skin, especially if you have cuts or sores on your skin.

» Document where you caught the fish, and if possible, photograph it. A website is being developed on which anglers may post their findings.

» Anglers are not advised to keep the sick fish because of the risks of the fish transmitting disease to humans.

» If you bring in a red snapper with lesions, it does count toward your fishing quota.

For more details, go to www.nmfs.noaa.gov, where NOAA will post a notice of the sick fish, guidelines, and other details in the next day or two.
The National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration is standing by its declaration that the Gulf of Mexico seafood is safe to eat, but for the first time it's warning anglers that some fish are sick and may pose health problems if handled or eaten raw.

The agency is telling anglers to toss fish that have lesions, fin rot, or discolored skin back into the Gulf and to be careful about handling them. This warning comes just one week before the June 1 opening of recreational red snapper season.

NOAA says its fisheries division has sampled finfish and has not observed any with lesions. But it acknowledged that fishermen and scientists have recently reported and documented lesions on fish they are catching in federal waters off Alabama.

"NOAA Fisheries Services ... takes these reports seriously and will continue to work with the fishing and seafood industries, academic, state, and federal partners to characterize the extent and possible implications of lesions on Gulf finfish," the agency said.

The reports of sick fish correlate with areas most impacted by the BP oil spill, said Jim Cowan, Jr., the Louisiana State University Department of Oceanography and Coastal Sciences scientist who is at the center of the sick fish studies off the Alabama coast. But he said there [are] no hard data to connect the sick fish to the oil spill.

A week ago, LSU scientists determined that lesions on red snapper found within 20 miles of Orange Beach, Ala., were infected with two bacteria common in the Gulf environment -- Vibrio vulnificus and Photobacterium damselae.

Cowan said Photobacterium damselae could be responsible for a massive fish loss and can pose serious health problems for humans under certain situations. The bacteria can enter the human body through cuts during handling of diseased fish and if consumed raw.

But John Stein, Director of NOAA Fisheries Seafood Testing Program, said the bacteria are susceptible to heat. "If you cook it, you destroy it and the risks go way, way down," he said.

Stein said the LSU findings are preliminary and NOAA, the Food and Drug Adminstration, Dauphin Island Sea Lab in Alabama, and a host of other state, federal, and university scientists, including some at the University of West Florida, are working to better understand how widespread the problem is.

The Sea Lab is collecting fish samples this week for further scrutiny by the FDA. A broader survey is poised to begin to determine whether the sick fish extend to areas beyond Alabama coastal waters. And NOAA is setting up a website on which recreational anglers can report any sick fish they find.

Stein was careful not to raise too many red flags until more research is done.

But Cowan said he believes the problem is more widespread. "I'm very worried because I've talked to both commercial and recreational fishermen who have been in the business 30 to 40 years and no one has seen anything like this," he said.

He's sure recreational anglers will discover what commercial fishermen and scientists have been finding in their catches for months -- sick fish from the mouth of the Mississippi River to Panama City.

Commercial fisherman Donnie Waters has been fishing the Gulf since 1974. He was shocked to learn that the sick fish he's been catching and sending to scientists for study are infected with the dangerous bacteria.

"I'm seeing things I've never seen before," he said. "I'm deeply concerned about the long-term impact of the fishery of the eastern Gulf."
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:10 PM
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Courtesy of Jim Cowan, Louisiana State University]
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>> Some red snapper caught in the area of the oil spill have severe fin rot, particularly on their anal fins. A healthy fish would be able to fight off such infections, scientists say. They suspect that the immune systems have collapsed as a result of a toxin.
>> Some red snapper caught in the area of the oil spill have severe fin rot, particularly on their anal fins. A healthy fish would be able to fight off such infections, scientists say. They suspect that the immune systems have collapsed as a result of a toxin.
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>> A year after the Deepwater Horizon disaster spewed oil into the Gulf of Mexico, the Florida beaches are relatively clean, the surf seems clear, and the tourists are returning. But there are signs that the disaster is continuing to affect marine life in the Gulf far from where humans can observe it.
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>> Over the winter, anglers who had been working the Gulf for decades began hauling in red snapper that didn't look like anything they had seen before. The fish had dark lesions on their skin, some the size of a 50-cent piece. On some of them, the lesions had eaten a hole straight through to the muscle tissue. Many had fins that were rotting away and discolored or even striped skin. Inside, they had enlarged livers, gallbladders, and bile ducts.
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>> "The fish have a bacterial infection and a parasite infection that's consistent with a compromised immune system," said Jim Cowan, an oceanographer at Louisiana State University, who has been examining them. "There's no doubt it's associated with a chronic exposure to a toxin."
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>> He believes the toxin in question is oil, given where and when the fish were caught, their symptoms, and the similarity to other incidents involving oil spills. But he is awaiting toxicology tests to be certain.
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>> Cowan said he hasn't seen anything like these fish in 25 years of studying the Gulf, which persuades him that "it would be a pretty big coincidence if it wasn't associated with the oil spill."
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>> If he were a detective, he'd be ready to make an arrest. "It's a circumstantial case," he said, "but at the same time I think we can get a conviction."
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>> Red snapper are reef fish that feed on mantis shrimp, swimming crabs, and other small creatures found in the sediment on the Gulf floor. Anglers catch them at anywhere from 60 to 200 feet deep. In addition to the snapper, some
sheepshead have turned up with similar symptoms, Cowan said.
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>> The fish with lesions and other woes have been caught anywhere from 10 to 80 miles offshore between Pensacola and the mouth of the Mississippi River, an area hit hard by last year's oil spill, Cowan said.
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>> "They're finding them out near the shelf edge, near the spill site," said Will Patterson, a marine biology professor at the University of West Florida.
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>> Patterson, who has been studying reef fish in the Gulf for past two years, has sent some of the strange catches to a laboratory for toxicology tests. He suspects Cowan is correct about the oil being the culprit but is withholding judgment.
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>> Red snapper are a popular seafood, with a delicate sweet flavor whether served broiled, baked, steamed, poached, fried, or grilled. Asked whether the sick fish might pose a hazard to humans who ate them, Cowan said nobody would want to touch these, much less cook them.
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>> "It's pretty nasty," Cowan said. "If you saw this, you wouldn't eat it."
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>> Most of the fishermen who caught the weird snappers tossed them back, weighed anchor and moved to another spot, he said. But a few dropped their suspect catch into a box separate from the healthy fish and brought them to shore to show to scientists.
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>> Several of those scientists discussed the disquieting discovery at a conference at the University of South Florida in St. Petersburg recently.
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>> "We're seeing fish anomalies, strange-looking fish," said Richard Snyder, Director of the Center for Environmental Diagnostics and Bioremediation at the University of West Florida, who has accompanied fishermen going out to collect samples for study. "Wound-healing is becoming an issue."
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>> The key is what happened to the livers and bile, said Ernst Peebles of the University of South Florida, who is far more cautious about attributing the lesions and discoloration to the spill because they could be caused by something else.
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>> The liver, gallbladder, and bile system filter out hydrocarbons — oil components — that the fish might consume while eating their prey. If those systems are enlarged, that means they have become stressed out. That, Peebles said, "is very consistent with the impacts of oil."
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>> If those systems quit working, that would compromise the immune system, Cowan said.
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>> Does that mean the crustaceans and other prey that the red snapper have been eating are contaminated with oil? "I don't think anybody's looked," said Cowan.
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>> However, University of South Florida scientists have found some microscopic organisms called "foraminifera" — forams, for short — that are also showing signs that something troubling is going on in the Gulf. Forams live on the Gulf bottom and are eaten by worms, crustaceans, and fish.
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>> Ben Flower of USF said they have found forams in the Gulf "with deformed shells. . . . It was striking." There is evidence of hydrocarbons from oil in the sediment, but test results that could show if that's the cause of the deformity are still in the works, he said.
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>> The symptoms displayed by the red snapper are similar to something that happened four years after the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska. In 1993 the herring fishery in Prince William Sound crashed. The herring succumbed to fungus and a virus — their immune systems had been compromised.
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>> However, a 1999 report noted that "the extent to which the exposure to oil contributed to the 1993 disease outbreak is uncertain."
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>> Gil McRae, Director of the state's Marine Science Laboratory in St. Petersburg, said he thought it was "irresponsible" for scientists to be attributing the red snapper's symptoms to the spill without further testing and analysis.
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>> All of the scientists involved said they were nervous about what impact this might have on the Gulf's seafood industry, which still has not recovered from the shutdowns and bad publicity during last year's crisis. Peebles pointed out that any premature release of information could also scare fishermen away from helping the scientists investigate what was going on.
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>> "Now we're hiding information because political and economic interests don't want you to say anything because it would affect economic interests," said William "Bill" Hogarth, a former federal fisheries official who now oversees the Florida Institute of Oceanography. "But fishermen, they're seeing fish that are deformed."
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:11 PM
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Do you have any pictures of the actual ice chest? Would like to see the ice


Alot of freshwater fish have those lesions as well. Never really thought about it too much, just filet around it, or give it to the in-laws, Kinda like those beers that get hot and you put em in your fridge - give those away too
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A week ago, LSU scientists determined that lesions on red snapper found within 20 miles of Orange Beach, Ala., were infected with two bacteria common in the Gulf environment -- Vibrio vulnificus and Photobacterium damselae.
If you know anyone who has had vibrio ,You would never even touch one of these fish!
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