Whooping cranes mean more than people.

[MathGeek]

Sorry, double post.

[Spunt Drag]

So millions of dollars to restore an absolutely useless bird is the path we need to be on? Just tryin to get on the same page.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag

So millions of dollars to restore an absolutely useless bird is the path we need to be on? Just tryin to get on the same page.

Yes

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag

So millions of dollars to restore an absolutely useless bird is the path we need to be on? Just tryin to get on the same page.

Yep, abortion is legal but you go to jail for shooting an oversized egret. Trillions in debt but there is nothing better to do w the money.

[kenner18v]

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag

So millions of dollars to restore an absolutely useless bird is the path we need to be on? Just tryin to get on the same page.

Exactly, I hunt close to white lake preserve and they drained most of the water in the marsh for these birds and has killed a lot of mallard habitation, all for a few nasty birds!!

["W"]

The only question I have is; how did they become almost extinct??

And if they could not survive then, what in the hell makes our WL& F think they can survive now??

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Reefman

I see there are very few members of the Audubon Society residing here! If these were pintails shot out of season everyone would be screaming to lynch up the outlaws. Give these cranes a chance, along with bald eagles in our area.

You wont here me screaming for a lynching. If some dude is hunting down his next supper he should roll a few of em. Thats how the good lord meant it to be. If not he woulda made wlf before he made critters and told us to kill and eat em. It was human greed that caused all the beaurocratic BS. If people would have continued to take what was needed and no more than that we wouldnt have all these freaking (not the word I wanted to use) opossum cops running around pretending to save the world. Bunch of egotistical *****s.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by "W"

The only question I have is; how did they become almost extinct??

And if they could not survive then, what in the hell makes our WL& F think they can survive now??

I watched a show a good while back and it dealt with the Louisiana Red Wolf. La. wlf was euthanizing pups believed to be a wolf/coyote cross. If that is accurate I would love to know when wlf decided they were God. If that show was accurate I see that as a species trying to survive in some form. If thats the case the wlf should stay the hell out of the way and let nature be nature. If the show nat geo or discovery is accurate it is another pathetic use of taxdollars.

[jdog1908]

Don't worry people, we are your government and we are here to take care of you

[capt coonassty]

Originally Posted by "W"

The only question I have is; how did they become almost extinct??

And if they could not survive then, what in the hell makes our WL& F think they can survive now??

Wikipedia says "unregulated hunting and habitat loss"

So under your line of thinking why bring back redfish when they crashed?
People were the cause of both of them to decline.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by "W"

Now thats what im talking about, are they good to eat?

Kinda between a Dodo and an Emu, with hints of Moa when cooked on the grill.

[kenner18v]

Originally Posted by capt coonassty

Wikipedia says "unregulated hunting and habitat loss"

So under your line of thinking why bring back redfish when they crashed?
People were the cause of both of them to decline.

So how much do we spend to bring a bird back that you can't hunt? And they hurt the waterfowl population that is a multi million dollar business to Louisiana. I'm all for bringing back the big bird with private money!!

[Smalls]

Ok, so let me get this straight, the bird is useless because it can't be hunted right now?

I guess turkeys were useless when they were restoring them, then. I guess that was a waste of public money, because it never amounted to anything.

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["W"]

Originally Posted by capt coonassty

Wikipedia says "unregulated hunting and habitat loss"

So under your line of thinking why bring back redfish when they crashed?
People were the cause of both of them to decline.

LMAO

Dude we never had to tag and track Redfish nor had to stop fishing them

They were not anywhere near extinct!!

They made gill netting illegal and redfish came back on there own!!!!


The Gulf of Mexico is home to millions on millions of redfish even when gill nets were legal

[specknation]

Originally Posted by "W"

LMAO

Dude we never had to tag and track Redfish nor had to stop fishing them

They were not anywhere near extinct!!

They made gill netting illegal and redfish came back on there own!!!!


The Gulf of Mexico is home to millions on millions of redfish even when gill nets were legal

I can tell you that redfish on the east side of the state where nearly gone after the blackened redfish craze hit. Many places including Venice the redfish capital of the world the stocks where crazy low. And of course the gill nets did the most damage in the inland marshes.

[Spunt Drag]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Ok, so let me get this straight, the bird is useless because it can't be hunted right now?

I guess turkeys were useless when they were restoring them, then. I guess that was a waste of public money, because it never amounted to anything.

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So their ultimate goal is to let us hunt em?

["W"]

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag

So their ultimate goal is to let us hunt em?

We have 100xs more of these than WC and we cant even hunt these

[Smalls]

They hunt them in Texas, sandhills that is. Not sure why there is no season here.

I don't know what the ultimate plan is, I already said that. Just making a point that people want to argue this is a waste of money, yet turkeys, deer, and black bears have and aare being restored, and the end result in deer and Turkey, and eventually the black bear, has been the opening of hunting seasons. Who is to say this would be any different?

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[MathGeek]

I don't think anyone would object to modest restoration efforts, but rather to the costs relative to the perceived benefits.

[fisheye]

Hmm... i did not think that this would be my first post to this forum and i cannot tell you why this has motivated me to engagement, but ok -

I fail to understand the vehemence of the rhetoric regarding this topic. We are talking about a large awkward bird with heavy natural predation and low reproductive rate that was on an apparent population decline when people showed up and started slaughtering them.
There is now a group that has substantial organizational ability and sway to engineer an effort to restore this creature to subsistence within a protected environment. There is some state funding of this endeavor but it is my understanding that it is largely privately funded with government support. To this end i don't see where anyone who is griping about this is being harmed (gubment cheese is cheaper than bullets and shells and guns). The people we see hurting this effort through scofflaw behavior is typically younger with the mentality of 'hey look at that big bird - let's shoot it'. Let's be honest, no one here has ever cooked a whooping crane (except maybe mathgeek lol) to say they are a sought after delicacy.

I personally think it would be so cool to see a five foot bird in the field and would like to see people support this effort with their own private contributions to see if it is viable(recognizing that almost all large animals are dependent on conservation efforts for existence) and if not, then oh well....the species has obviously been supplanted by one more suited to its own preservation - unless there is a no limit sandhill crane season or someone figures out how to put it on the menu of course...

To the argument that particular human life is less valuable than particular animal life...really!? lol

I joined this site to pick up a few fishing tips...looks like i might be a little more entertained

peace