Cajun Navy - Training, Permits, License and Fees

[Rat-Red]

Maybe I'm missing the point but the way I see it is these outdoorsman spend their own money, use their own equipment and did what they had to do to save people. I saw on the news that Senator Johnaton Perry wants citizen-rescuers across the state to take training and start applying for permits so there is no liability. How can you regulate this? Here's a thought - how 'bout passing a law saying that anyone attempting to rescue someone is exempt from liability.

http://www.theadvocate.com/louisiana...76d9b161a.html

[Top Dawg]

Just another way for the government to steal money from the working man. Let me know when the revolution starts.

[seachaser250]

This guy is full of more crap than your normal politician. Clarify your statements is political code for "opps I shouldn't have said that to begin with."

Seems to me the Cajun Navy did great job without any of the stupid, ridiculous, and moronic processes this politician is suggesting.

[Top Dawg]

The ppl who voted him in should band together and have him removed from his seat immediately. Hes pimping this terrible disaster as a way to make money. If hes that concerned about liability, just let everyone sign a waiver. No need to charge a man to save another man.

[saute86]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

The ppl who voted him in should band together and have him removed from his seat immediately. Hes pimping this terrible disaster as a way to make money. If hes that concerned about liability, just let everyone sign a waiver. No need to charge a man to save another man.

I agree this should fall under the good Samaritan laws. It is just another way to make a buck and claim the credit in the future. Government just can't stand to not be in control. The feds hate Louisiana. We out performed them in every aspect of this disaster. Quicker at response to evacuation, shelters, food and donations. They can't claim look at all the people we saved. Look at what we gave you so vote for us. We need your donations so we can keep 90% of the dollars and give you 10% back. But you know what they hate most of all. We exposed them for what and who they are. All show and no go!

[seachaser250]

Originally Posted by saute86

I agree this should fall under the good Samaritan laws. It is just another way to make a buck and claim the credit in the future. Government just can't stand to not be in control. The feds hate Louisiana. We out performed them in every aspect of this disaster. Quicker at response to evacuation, shelters, food and donations. They can't claim look at all the people we saved. Look at what we gave you so vote for us. We need your donations so we can keep 90% of the dollars and give you 10% back. But you know what they hate most of all. We exposed them for what and who they are. All show and no go!

Exactly! They can't even manage deliver mail in a half way efficient manner!!!! So bad at it people pay a premium to use FED EX or UPS.

[Marque]

Not the case. Lots of misinformation out there. I am not a JP fan but I know him well enough to know that he would never introduce something like that. He's to the right of far right. Here is a message he posted on FB.

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.j....4572198949427/

[seachaser250]

Originally Posted by Marque

Not the case. Lots of misinformation out there. I am not a JP fan but I know him well enough to know that he would never introduce something like that. He's to the right of far right. Here is a message he posted on FB.

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.j....4572198949427/

I don't care what video you post after the story breaks. It's a pointless idea anyway. The Cajun Navy did a fine job without having some inefficient government certification process involved.

[AlexOrtego]

Originally Posted by seachaser250

I don't care what video you post after the story breaks. It's a pointless idea anyway. The Cajun Navy did a fine job without having some inefficient government certification process involved.

ARE Y'ALL BLIND? Perry basically saw the Cajun Navy being shutdown by Law Enforcement, not being allowed to launch their boats/access certain disaster areas. Perry wants to come up with something removes law enforcement from the equation and gives the "cajun navy" free access to help without running into problems with law enforcement.

[seachaser250]

Originally Posted by AlexOrtego

ARE Y'ALL BLIND? Perry basically saw the Cajun Navy being shutdown by Law Enforcement, not being allowed to launch their boats/access certain disaster areas. Perry wants to come up with something removes law enforcement from the equation and gives the "cajun navy" free access to help without running into problems with law enforcement.

ok i'm listening. Now who is going to pay for all this?

I watched live on KATC while boats were being launched off Pinhook with out any problems.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by AlexOrtego

ARE Y'ALL BLIND? Perry basically saw the Cajun Navy being shutdown by Law Enforcement, not being allowed to launch their boats/access certain disaster areas. Perry wants to come up with something removes law enforcement from the equation and gives the "cajun navy" free access to help without running into problems with law enforcement.

OK, then make the law so that government employees go to jail if they stop good samaritans, but don't make extra requirements for the good samaritans.

Control government without making good neighbors jump through hoops.

Is that so hard to understand?

[Jcredeur]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

OK, then make the law so that government employees go to jail if they stop good samaritans, but don't make extra requirements for the good samaritans.



Control government without making good neighbors jump through hoops.



Is that so hard to understand?

So the next big hazmat emergency we are to let Good Samaritans in without PPE bc they are just there to help!
I like this reasoning!


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[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

OK, then make the law so that government employees go to jail if they stop good samaritans, but don't make extra requirements for the good samaritans.

Control government without making good neighbors jump through hoops.

Is that so hard to understand?

/end thread

[ahlangle]

I was ready to write something like the others, "typical LA govt wants to shake down the guys out there helping." Thanks for the video that helps clear it up, straight from the horse's mouth. Can't say I like the "here's my address take a shot" stuff, but hearing the real story helps. Thanks Marque.

[Marque]

He's my neighbor. I hope they are better shots than they are at facts.

[Jcredeur]

I don't agree with a fee but I'm not opposed to a training program... Some sort of organization to work within the Incident Command Framework wouldn't hurt as well. It would actually more than likely get help to citizens quicker linking the navy to the EOC.... I think good could come out of it if done right...


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[jchief]

Originally Posted by Jcredeur

I don't agree with a fee but I'm not opposed to a training program... Some sort of organization to work within the Incident Command Framework wouldn't hurt as well. It would actually more than likely get help to citizens quicker linking the navy to the EOC.... I think good could come out of it if done right...


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You guys don't get it. Any idea how many went out there with an ice chest of beer? How about 4 "buddies" in a 15' boay to rescue people? How about LDWF having to pull units from rescue to deal with th ones that were drunk or lost?

Granted, they were the minority, but it happened. There has to be some coordination! If you just drop and go, you may be going where the area has already been cleared or if you clear an area, the others who go through there are wasting valuable time.

There has to be some training and coordination.

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[Jcredeur]

Originally Posted by jchief

You guys don't get it. Any idea how many went out there with an ice chest of beer? How about 4 "buddies" in a 15' boay to rescue people? How about LDWF having to pull units from rescue to deal with th ones that were drunk or lost?

Granted, they were the minority, but it happened. There has to be some coordination! If you just drop and go, you may be going where the area has already been cleared or if you clear an area, the others who go through there are wasting valuable time.

There has to be some training and coordination.

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Chief,
I guess it is hard for those who have never worked within the NIMS framework to actually understand the planning and organization that goes on. I can speak from experience on how hard it is to get your job done while having to worry about would be rescuers getting stranded and having duplication of efforts due to lack of communication. The Cajun navy is a great group of volunteers but working within a national response guideline is essential in disaster response.....


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[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by jchief

You guys don't get it. Any idea how many went out there with an ice chest of beer? How about 4 "buddies" in a 15' boay to rescue people? How about LDWF having to pull units from rescue to deal with th ones that were drunk or lost?

Granted, they were the minority, but it happened. There has to be some coordination! If you just drop and go, you may be going where the area has already been cleared or if you clear an area, the others who go through there are wasting valuable time.

There has to be some training and coordination.

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Not a shot at you Chief just a thought.
If I'm using my time, my boat and my fuel to come get you out of your flooded house and you have a problem with the beer in my hand just get comfy at home because that's where I'm leaving you. Even drunk neighbors get stuff done faster than a sober government.

[Jcredeur]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Not a shot at you Chief just a thought.

If I'm using my time, my boat and my fuel to come get you out of your flooded house and you have a problem with the beer in my hand just get comfy at home because that's where I'm leaving you. Even drunk neighbors get stuff done faster than a sober government.

Whether it's at my paid department or my volunteer department I want competent people working around me... A level of competence is expected from myself and our crew, I expect it from everyone working around me also. My life could very well be in their hands... You would be surprised at the amount of victims that started out as untrained would be rescuers..


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