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Old 01-21-2011, 10:15 AM
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There is a diesel injector shop in Opelousas called JL Heberts and the can get them for you at a fraction of the cost of the dealership. Now all you have to do is find a competent mechanic to install them. My 07 dodge has 256000 miles on it pulling a 40 gn trailer and I have had zero injector problems. Most of your truckstops sell good fuel because they move so much of it.
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Old 01-21-2011, 12:24 PM
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"Red" and clear are the same diesel so why would the "Off Road" diesel be dirty?? If that were the case, how many farmers would be pumping it into their $200,000 combines and tractors????? Red diesel runs great in trucks until the Feds catch you and then it becomes very Xpensive!
Because farmers DONT keep the storage tanks clean.............I changed more diesel engines in farm trucks than any other diesels............guess why!!
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:46 PM
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Try Weaver Dodge in Kirbyville,Tx. ask for Ken in service.They are cheaper than any local dealership and worth the drive .
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:40 AM
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Well here's the verdict.....brought truck to another mechanic 30+ years experience, trash in the full pump not allowing fuel line to prime quick enough (trouble starting only after it's set up a day or 2) new fuel pump, several fuel pressure test & a couple other odds & ins & were back in business for $865, dealership told me all 6 injecters were bad at a price of $5300! They weren't even close to the problem!!!! Bastards!!!!
Oh & he did strongly recommend using an additive, prefers Lucus or the stuff Baton Rouge industries carries, now gotta find time to go to the dealership & give them a freaking earful! If I wouldn't have had a lil bit of mechanical knowledge they would have screwed out of $5300 & still not have fixed the problem! I knew it was not priming & told them that but I guess I'm the dumbazz????
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:49 AM
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Right now your red dye off road diesel still has a high sulphur content and will mess up injectors and pumps in the new low sulphur vehicles. They have several farmers around here that can tell you that and the factory dosent warranty it either, New motor in truck is about 13,000.00
Ford.............$17,500

Dodge.............$19,000
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Old 01-25-2011, 12:49 PM
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Ford.............$17,500

Dodge.............$19,000
Mudda Frickka, I think I'm going to buy some fuel additives for my Cummins ...
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Old 01-25-2011, 12:58 PM
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Well here's the verdict.....brought truck to another mechanic 30+ years experience, trash in the full pump not allowing fuel line to prime quick enough (trouble starting only after it's set up a day or 2) new fuel pump, several fuel pressure test & a couple other odds & ins & were back in business for $865, dealership told me all 6 injecters were bad at a price of $5300! They weren't even close to the problem!!!! Bastards!!!!
Oh & he did strongly recommend using an additive, prefers Lucus or the stuff Baton Rouge industries carries, now gotta find time to go to the dealership & give them a freaking earful! If I wouldn't have had a lil bit of mechanical knowledge they would have screwed out of $5300 & still not have fixed the problem! I knew it was not priming & told them that but I guess I'm the dumbazz????
Glad to hear that, man! Expensive still but, nothing like what the dealer wanted.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:22 PM
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Yeah me & the dealership is going to have a sho nuff go round! They charge $100 & something dollars for a diagnostics test that supposedly showed all 6 injectors bad, wasn't the problem!
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:36 PM
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have a 2000 ford 7.3 275.000 miles run lucas injecter cleaner about every third tank and have never had a problem motor has never been into also running high performance progam since 2001
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Yeah me & the dealership is going to have a sho nuff go round! They charge $100 & something dollars for a diagnostics test that supposedly showed all 6 injectors bad, wasn't the problem!
New age computer diagnostics are beneficial but it can not tell if there is trash in a fuel pump or restricted hose etc. Wtretrievers good job on being diligent in not accepting to first diagnosis that was given at the stealer.
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Old 01-25-2011, 06:03 PM
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New age computer diagnostics are beneficial but it can not tell if there is trash in a fuel pump or restricted hose etc. Wtretrievers good job on being diligent in not accepting to first diagnosis that was given at the stealer.
There's not many "mechanics" anymore, just someone hooks up a computer & reads trouble codes
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Old 01-25-2011, 06:38 PM
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There's not many "mechanics" anymore, just someone hooks up a computer & reads trouble codes
No one can 'troubleshoot' engines anymore. They just R & R. Remove and replace. Hell, I can do that without them...
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:00 PM
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No one can 'troubleshoot' engines anymore. They just R & R. Remove and replace. Hell, I can do that without them...
the best diagnostics is from a computer reading sensors not codes, codes don't tell you much, the computer my friend has can tell which each sensor is reading each second for the last ten drive cycles in your truck's computer, this helps diagnosis of problems a lot more than a code reader.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:13 PM
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the best diagnostics is from a computer reading sensors not codes, codes don't tell you much, the computer my friend has can tell which each sensor is reading each second for the last ten drive cycles in your truck's computer, this helps diagnosis of problems a lot more than a code reader.
That's what we meant, mechanics nowadays or should I say younger mechanics (not all) don't know how to troubleshoot anymore. Most strictly rely on a computer, & I know the newer vehicles are computer everything but there's still mechanical issues to face, I see it in the construction business, with all the new tools out these days the younger guys don't know how to get it done if that special tool breaks, have seen it a thousand times
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:56 PM
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yeah, I've diagnosed things on my truck using a code reader and going to truck forums and found out that some of my problems were very common, A mechanic told me he does that often and uses a car repair program called ALLDATA.
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Old 01-25-2011, 08:16 PM
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Guys, it's not only in the mechanic business. The collision industry is filled to the brim with parts changers today. That is one aspect we thrive on is that we know how to FIX metal when others do not.

Finding help for our growth time is very difficult. If you've seen my work, you know my standards. With that said, I've done it from a small pos shop to date and am finally moving up to the "big time". What I'm saying is, when you pass by that little hole in the wall for the big shop, you may well be passing the best shop in town! Your local dealer is typically a joke on the mechanical and collision side.

Just my .02
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:30 AM
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i have had dodge and cummins for going on 30 years weather it was in a pump or a truck. never had a problem with red fuel when they came out with it. with the injectors. but the clear fuel and the new red is dry. Had a presser pump go out with the new "dry fuel" add lucas or a querter of a qrt. of auto tranny fulid to the tank to keep the seels in the pump from drying up. If you buy fuel bulk like i do theres a gallon of ???(cant rember the name) but it treats 600 gallons at a time. 08' and newer dont!! and dont try and run red fuel in them. not good at all!!!! learend that the hard way with a late 07'/08'
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