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#22
06-12-2013, 09:03 PM
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But the spouse who is an addition to the group plan can file for a "stay" on the insurance until they are able to get on a new coverage. this only concerns the time divorce is filed to divorce is FInAL ;when the divorce is FINAL it automatically kicks them off. 
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#23
06-12-2013, 09:08 PM
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What as been kicked around on the Obama plan is a 60/40 which would put users of the plan paying 40 percent. If that does hold out to be the case there will be some unhappy people when you consider a child birth costing between $7,000 to $14,000 not including a c section. Want a cat scan? 40 percent of around $2,000. Let the good times roll....
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#24
06-12-2013, 09:10 PM
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What we will see are rising rates from insurers that will force almost everyone into the federal plan. If you want to keep bcbs they will take you once this kicks in but you better be ready to pay for it.
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#25
06-12-2013, 09:15 PM
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Dr appt will take 6 weeks for a cold (which will be gone) If you have cancer and over 65 just make the sign of the cross and say your last wishes!!!
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#26
06-12-2013, 09:16 PM
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Soooooo what ur saying is its gonna b more expensive to have the current plans we have ; and cheaper to get on the Gov plan??
What is the difference in coverage/ available treatments / hospitals etc.?
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#27
06-12-2013, 09:36 PM
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The rest is just my opinion but I believe the quality of care will decrease and for major medical situations the out of pocket will be more. I believe the government plan will use actuarial tables to determine which types of treatments will be covered based upon age and severity. For example if you were 75, had a disease that only had a 15 percent chance of a cure I believe the focus would be to make you comfortable not cure you. For a period during my career I was involved in management of a major health care network and these types pf conversations took place even then with no government plan and lack of funding. This was simply based upon greed and profit. Again just my opinion.... Why do you think congress refused to be part of the plan? They passed it for "us" but they aren't going to put their family on it. I wonder why?
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#28
06-12-2013, 09:38 PM
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Good thing those who voted this in are mostly exempt....makes you go hmmmmm...
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The cops are the experts on the current criminal trends. If they have determined that a “high capacity” semiautomatic pistol and a .223 semiautomatic rifle with 30-round magazines are the best firearms for them to use to protect people like me and my family, they are obviously the best things for us to use to protect ourselves and our families .
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#29
06-12-2013, 09:39 PM
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^^^
I agree
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#31
06-12-2013, 09:48 PM
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I'm just wondering from the obvious abuse of power within the IRS...how can we sit back and let this horrible program be implemented...
People's inability to comprehend the repercussion of this are to blame...I call it the honey boo boo society...brainwashed by tv and the liberal agenda...smoke and mirrors... Maybe I'm wrong but the solution is much more involved....but it would take a collective group with a financial/business sense to pull the healthcare system out of ruin. All this will do is stagnate the development of new treatments and medicine...say goodbye to quality healthcare available to the avg joe...I'm going to be a pissed sob one day when I know my child could have received better care under our current or older system...pissed
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The cops are the experts on the current criminal trends. If they have determined that a “high capacity” semiautomatic pistol and a .223 semiautomatic rifle with 30-round magazines are the best firearms for them to use to protect people like me and my family, they are obviously the best things for us to use to protect ourselves and our families .
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#32
06-12-2013, 09:54 PM
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Sulphite, we live in a world where our gov't is above the law now. Many refer to it as communism.
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#33
06-12-2013, 10:21 PM
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06-12-2013, 10:22 PM
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TIME OF CHANGE has arrived; I only hope I don't have to have relive being in third world control. Although we were always in protection we still witnessed what the national people were subjected to day in day out.Though times and condtion's are quickly changing. The rest of the story will be up to the things of change.
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#35
06-12-2013, 10:29 PM
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ACA will implode within 2 yrs and the HC xchanges will not be cheaper than private plans. BCBS will not answer my questions regarding their ability to pickup when this happens or their actuarial numbers. It is my opinion that they know what the final outcome will be with the ACA. UHC wrote the program and sold it to everyone else but will not be using it to determine their premiums, wonder why?? UHC was and is in bed wih AARP the communist senior citizen org who also sponsored the ACA through millions of $$ with of radio and tv ads. I believe they are hedging and know any HC org who buys into ACA won't be around when it goes bad so they will be the monopoly for years to come in HC. This is all just my theory and might be incorrect but I try to follow the money in cases like these.
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#36
06-12-2013, 10:42 PM
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Government health care is nothing more than a TAX!! Your taxed no matter what you do!! So bottom line is your going to bend over and take it one way or another but were _ _ _ _ ed!!
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#37
06-13-2013, 06:56 AM
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W im with blue cross also and I was just able to do a change to mine...there was a section that had eligible events i.e, new borns, death divorce etc., or did this just go into effect within this last month or so???
Sent From an Apple Tree.
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#38
06-13-2013, 07:59 AM
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Rest assured those that do not pay taxes now and receive the earned income credit (a form of welfare that is not talked about) will continue to do as they have always done. In summary healthcare and qualify of life for middle class and higher people will decrease while thier taxes increase. Lower class people that pay little to no taxes will actually have a better quality of life and enjoy the same health care "we" "enjoy". The only difference is we will pay for ours and their shortfall only to end up in a worse spot than we were prior to the plan. It's a huge win for those that are un-employed and or very low income earners. Those of us that work hard to make sure our families are taken care of...... Not so much.
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#39
06-13-2013, 08:03 AM
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Obama politics and the democratic mind set is a Robin Hood mentality. Take from the "rich" and give to the poor. Since 50 percent of the people pay little to no taxes the party will continue to remain in power. The problem is most of us are far from rich and already pay significant taxes for no representation. Take Texas and Louisiana for example. Do you think his group would ever look out for our best interest? Of course not these are republican states. Our states will be taxed to pay for those states and groups that support his socialistic view point.
I normally stay away from politics since there is nothing I can do. My two states did not elect our President.
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