Has the left gone too far? . .

[PReaux]

Yes . .

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

[Smalls]

I'm sure someone thought that was clever when they wrote it, but how do they explain shootings in churches, movie theaters, and concerts?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by Smalls

I'm sure someone thought that was clever when they wrote it, but how do they explain shootings in churches, movie theaters, and concerts?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

Most shootings occur in gun free zones. I think the more legally armed good guys and gals we have the safer we all are.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Dogface

Most shootings occur in gun free zones. I think the more legally armed good guys and gals we have the safer we all are.

I know that. That's the obvious here. Not some nonsensical crap about God not being in schools.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

[chuzo]

Originally Posted by Smalls

I'm sure someone thought that was clever when they wrote it, but how do they explain shootings in churches, movie theaters, and concerts?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

Because of those who reject God.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by chuzo

Because of those who reject God.

My Point.

Your Head.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

[bjhooper82]

Let me just say this first, I went to private catholic schools all my life and firmly believe in God and praying for people. But I dont think that God or Jesus is going to come to the United States and prevent mass shootings from happening. I think where some people are missing the point is that we need to put God and religion back in all schools to teach our kids how to care more about each other and have more value for life. The future of this country is heading in a very scary direction my friends.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by bjhooper82

Let me just say this first, I went to private catholic schools all my life and firmly believe in God and praying for people. But I dont think that God or Jesus is going to come to the United States and prevent mass shootings from happening. I think where some people are missing the point is that we need to put God and religion back in all schools to teach our kids how to care more about each other and have more value for life. The future of this country is heading in a very scary direction my friends.

Parents can't teach their kids to value life?

Look, I'm Catholic. Go to church every Sunday, and say morning prayers just about every day. I was a lector and eucharistic minister for 6 years at my church while in College. I'm in the Knights of Columbus now. Religion is important to me and my family.

But valuing life is not a uniquely religious concept.

I went to public school, catholic school, and was home schooled at different times in my life. With the exception of homeschooling, I was picked at and bullied anywhere I went. I had no religious formation whatsoever from 7th grade to 11th grade.

Did I shoot any of my bullies? No. Why? Because my parents raised me better. Hell, I even had anger issues. Still never shot anyone.

It starts at home. And by being vigilant and knowing what is going on with your kids. Same for educators. People need to be aware of what is going on. Recognize bullying. Recognize problems.

Does religion help? Sure. But it's not a necessity to valuing human life.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

[bjhooper82]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Parents can't teach their kids to value life?

Look, I'm Catholic. Go to church every Sunday, and say morning prayers just about every day. I was a lector and eucharistic minister for 6 years at my church while in College. I'm in the Knights of Columbus now. Religion is important to me and my family.

But valuing life is not a uniquely religious concept.

I went to public school, catholic school, and was home schooled at different times in my life. With the exception of homeschooling, I was picked at and bullied anywhere I went. I had no religious formation whatsoever from 7th grade to 11th grade.

Did I shoot any of my bullies? No. Why? Because my parents raised me better. Hell, I even had anger issues. Still never shot anyone.

It starts at home. And by being vigilant and knowing what is going on with your kids. Same for educators. People need to be aware of what is going on. Recognize bullying. Recognize problems.

Does religion help? Sure. But it's not a necessity to valuing human life.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

I didnt say that parents can’t teach their kids the value of human life. I definitely agree that it starts at home. Parents need to step up and be more involved in their kids life as a positive role model. I didnt mean that its all up to the schools.

[PReaux]

Originally Posted by bjhooper82

I didnt say that parents can?t teach their kids the value of human life. I definitely agree that it starts at home. Parents need to step up and be more involved in their kids life as a positive role model. I didnt mean that its all up to the schools.

I agree entirely . . Take prayer out of school and you remove the only exposure to religion that some of these kids will ever get . . Believe me, they're not going to get it from CNN . . I saw it every day . . For 20 years . .

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Parents can't teach their kids to value life?

Look, I'm Catholic. Go to church every Sunday, and say morning prayers just about every day. I was a lector and eucharistic minister for 6 years at my church while in College. I'm in the Knights of Columbus now. Religion is important to me and my family.

But valuing life is not a uniquely religious concept.

I went to public school, catholic school, and was home schooled at different times in my life. With the exception of homeschooling, I was picked at and bullied anywhere I went. I had no religious formation whatsoever from 7th grade to 11th grade.

Did I shoot any of my bullies? No. Why? Because my parents raised me better. Hell, I even had anger issues. Still never shot anyone.

It starts at home. And by being vigilant and knowing what is going on with your kids. Same for educators. People need to be aware of what is going on. Recognize bullying. Recognize problems.

Does religion help? Sure. But it's not a necessity to valuing human life.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

Not to start a dissagreement but parents(especially hunters) do teach the value of life. When your kid kills a deer do you not explain to that young hunter that his lofe meant something and we should be grateful for hi life and rhe meat we now have. Yes they killed but it was for a reason. It teaches them that killing is the end. Not just a video game death and so it over. It is a final. Again not tryi g to argue. Just my view. I do believe that religion and family structure have the most to do with it. I'm not a highky religous person. Holy water would probabky burn me. I still have a lot of rwspect for the bible and the church. You have a book that basically says don't be an *******. How do you not.loke that?

[PReaux]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Not to start a dissagreement but parents(especially hunters) do teach the value of life. When your kid kills a deer do you not explain to that young hunter that his lofe meant something and we should be grateful for hi life and rhe meat we now have. Yes they killed but it was for a reason. It teaches them that killing is the end. Not just a video game death and so it over. It is a final. Again not tryi g to argue. Just my view. I do believe that religion and family structure have the most to do with it. I'm not a highky religous person. Holy water would probabky burn me. I still have a lot of rwspect for the bible and the church. You have a book that basically says don't be an *******. How do you not.loke that?

Very good . . I couldn't have said it better myself . . Thanks for that . .

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

[PReaux]

Not a "necessity to valuing life" . . It forms the basis of life . . I grew up saying the Lords prayer every day in school . . An extension of values taught at home . . Might need to try it again . . What they're doing now ain't working . . I retired a teacher . .

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

[Smalls]

It's not the job of the public school system to ensure children have religion.

Hell, in Louisiana, we can barely teach anything else.

Get family priorities back where they need to be. Get kids back outside hunting and fishing. Teach them responsibility and morals, instead of giving them everything and allowing them to be spoiled, entitled brats. Stand up to bullying and recognize it.

I know people that rarely go to church that are better people than some of the "every Sunday" crowd. My wife and I had a priest at our wedding that was later arrested om charges of child pornography.

You can't force religion on people, and putting it into schools is forcing it on people. It's no better than a college professor forcing his political views on his students through his course material.

Society is so warped today that religion cannot even begin to fix it alone. There are too many opponents of it.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

[PReaux]

Can't have it both ways . .

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

[cajun bill]

This:
http://malcolmpollack.com/2018/02/16...the-whirlwind/

best explanation I've heard for the anti-gun peeps.

[PReaux]

Originally Posted by cajun bill

This:
http://malcolmpollack.com/2018/02/16...the-whirlwind/

best explanation I've heard for the anti-gun peeps.

Works for me . .

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by cajun bill

This:
http://malcolmpollack.com/2018/02/16...the-whirlwind/

best explanation I've heard for the anti-gun peeps.

Yep. Pretty good read right there.

My boss said it the other day: put some actual armed and trained people in the schools. It's a SOFT TARGET!!

Funny thing about gun-free zones: criminals don't abide by the law.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

[PReaux]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Yep. Pretty good read right there.

My boss said it the other day: put some actual armed and trained people in the schools. It's a SOFT TARGET!!

Funny thing about gun-free zones: criminals don't abide by the law.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

Just locking the doors would help . . We had administration peeps come unannounced and check doors . . Oh snap . .

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by cajun bill

This:
http://malcolmpollack.com/2018/02/16...the-whirlwind/

best explanation I've heard for the anti-gun peeps.

Yep, very good!!