Need ideas on helping manage deer club

[specktator]

Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458

What's the point of controlling the bucks killed on your lease of as soon as they cross your property line they get mowed down? You can't control the guys next to you


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That's the usual 4 point shooters mindset.

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458

What's the point of controlling the bucks killed on your lease of as soon as they cross your property line they get mowed down? You can't control the guys next to you


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We have 5000 acres and are lucky enough to be bordered by areas with strict management principles or are not hunted at all(farm land). Right now we are "the club mowing them down"

[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by specktator

That's the usual 4 point shooters mindset.

You ever tried to make a gravy with them horns?


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[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458

You ever tried to make a gravy with them horns?


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That's the louisiana hunter mindset lol

[AubreyLaHaye458]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

That's the louisiana hunter mindset lol

Guess you don't have to hunt in Louisiana then. Because it's true, those horns never do get tender


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[specktator]

Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458

You ever tried to make a gravy with them horns?


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Lol I hear ya. To each his own. Trust me when I was a kid, if it was brown it was down. But now I have killed so many deer that seeing anything other than a big buck doesn't even get me that excited. May come off as spoiled but it is what it is. I was fortunate enough to hunt some prime areas in St. Francisville, LA all my life. And I understand not everyone has had that opportunity so I don't look down on whoever shoots whatever comes out. I just don't.

The property bordering mine to the south is a guy like us. He has a few 100 acres to himself and only shoots wall hangers. Property to the north is just farm land. To the east is a big club but they still have some minimum requirements. So I feel confident that if I let that buck walk that he will live.

[Top Dawg]

I have no problem with ppl shootin whatever either. I just think its funny when someone establishes a well managed lease and when they kill a nice deer someone says "that ain't huntin" lol

[AubreyLaHaye458]

I don't want to come off as being against big deer hunters or growing big deer or anything. lol I appreciate a big buck as much as the next guy. (Maybe not as much as a bowhunter.....yet) I was just raised differently. Dad wasn't a deer hunter so he always wanted meat. lol and the lease I'm in is nowhere near a big deer lease by any means. lol I have learned to watch deer and I feel like I am growing as a hunter though. lol


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[LakenLady]

I thought the question was.... What are some rules and repercussions that your club or clubs you have hunted at had?

What are some of the rules, requirements, and repercussions that yall use?

[bjhooper82]

Shooting doe's is just as important to herd management as letting young bucks walk too.

[spoony]

Are y'all talking about managing deer size or population?

[SGib]

If your hungry go to the meat market. I would set strict rules of 4+ yrs on your trophy bucks and young bucks is a fine. If it happens again your gone. Any guest shoot off hunters membership total. I'm also a believer in having a least one feeder going at your spot year round and if possible plant food plots.

[bgizzle]

Originally Posted by Nickt87

What are some rules and repercussions that your club or clubs you have hunted at had?

For instance:
My club is in Mississippi. The clubs requirements are minimum 12" spread or one 15" beam. No penalties for shooting yearlings or spikes. We used to have a penalty of $100 for killing a spike or buck under our requirements, but we got away from that for one reason or the other and have moved to an honor system. The honor system has went down the tube with the same 2-3 guys killing 2-3 spikes or small bucks every year on accident. I have fought to bring back the fines but people are saying that if there is a fine then when people "accidentaly" shoot small deer they will just dump them and not bring them back to the camp. I voted to kick the guys out the club and that went over like a turd in the punch bowl.
This club was the first club in Ms to participate in DMAP back in the 70s and was fairly managed and abundant with deer until the recent tornados that hit Ms and Al a few years back.

What are some of the rules, requirements, and repercussions that yall use?

What club u in? Sounds exactly like my ms lease.


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[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458

You ever tried to make a gravy with them horns?


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U ever try to make a gravy with a doe forehead? Can't
Eat dem horns and can't eat dem foreheads either

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by spoony

Are y'all talking about managing deer size or population?

We have the deer population management under control for the most part, i think.
We have a designated biologist that does studies on our lease every year and gives us a population estimate as well as a quota of does and bucks to kill regardless of the Ms regulations. We usually have to shoot around 30-40 does and 20-30 bucks. We used to get close to that number every year but haven't since the Tornadoes. I think we need to focus on the slim amount of bucks we have now and letting them grow to a fair size. We are in East Cental Mississippi in the Pine Belt, we don't have the genetics or deer numbers right now to have 100"+ deer consistently. I'm just trying to get us to let the bucks we do have get to at least 3 years old before we shoot them. I'm tired of seeing 1.5 and 2.5 year old deer at the skinning rack. Putting an age minimum is out the question though, some of the guys can't tell a 1.5 year old from a 5 year old. Shame I know.

[bgizzle]

I'm 85 ne of Jackson in French camp


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[cgoods17]

Maybe try and see what the rules and restrictions are at your surrounding clubs/ lodges and try and implement those on your club..

this way you wont have to worry about your neighbor shooting something you let walk since yall will but promoting the same regulations.

[LakenLady]

Originally Posted by Feesherman

U ever try to make a gravy with a doe forehead? Can't
Eat dem horns and can't eat dem foreheads either

L.M.A.O

[bjhooper82]

Originally Posted by Nickt87

We have the deer population management under control for the most part, i think.
We have a designated biologist that does studies on our lease every year and gives us a population estimate as well as a quota of does and bucks to kill regardless of the Ms regulations. We usually have to shoot around 30-40 does and 20-30 bucks. We used to get close to that number every year but haven't since the Tornadoes. I think we need to focus on the slim amount of bucks we have now and letting them grow to a fair size. We are in East Cental Mississippi in the Pine Belt, we don't have the genetics or deer numbers right now to have 100"+ deer consistently. I'm just trying to get us to let the bucks we do have get to at least 3 years old before we shoot them. I'm tired of seeing 1.5 and 2.5 year old deer at the skinning rack. Putting an age minimum is out the question though, some of the guys can't tell a 1.5 year old from a 5 year old. Shame I know.

Sounds like you just need to find a new lease.

[spoony]

Any tips on managing population?