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Old 01-06-2014, 01:37 PM
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Im on my way there now. Heard the 7lb trout are jumping in the boat there today
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:19 PM
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to cold to jump bring a dip net
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:16 PM
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The USGS gages in Hackberry show that the water temp has already dropped to 46 deg F, that the lake level is down two feet, and the salinity is low at 12 ppt.

There is very little risk under these conditions of opening the gates. Water will most likely flow out of the marsh and any backflow (into the marsh) is relatively low salinity. Since the temperature has already dropped to 46 deg F, there is a good chance of a fish kill, and strong motivation to open the gates.

See: http://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?08017095

Would there be risk of the fresh water flowing out into big lake, and when the salt water comes back with some south wind the levels are messed up? Essentially, salt water would fill in the marsh and damage the eco system?

Not sure if knee jerk reactions are the best for long term planning.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:47 AM
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Where are the fish kill picks?
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:40 AM
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Where are the fish kill picks?
Takes a few days before they float up, we will know by next week!!

I have to leave the camp, freaken heater would not keep up!! When your 10feet in the air!! That floor is cold!!
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:07 PM
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what do you do when the water gets pushed out waltrip? dont fish? or go up to the point?


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Old 01-07-2014, 12:09 PM
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what do you do when the water gets pushed out waltrip? dont fish? or go up to the point?


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About the only time the water gets pushed out that far is with a strong north winds for a few days

And you dont want to fish in that stuff
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:39 PM
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ive been once for my podnas bachelor party but the water we caught it before the water got pushed out that far and it was a nasty lil boat ride.


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Old 01-07-2014, 12:41 PM
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W, I remember that well. Had fish corpses all over the marsh. Fish naturally seek deep holes in winter for survival. I always thought refuges employed marine biologists? Would really like the rationale for keeping them closed.
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Someone should call those folks today. Provide the above photos. I think it is unwise to think the govt officials in charge of the wiers can actually put cause and effect together. They are govt officials, and will not lose their jobs and suffer any economic loses no matter how many fish are killed.
The Federal Refuge System was established for waterfowl habitat, not fisheries. Therefore, they do not employ marine biologists. USFWS may employ marine biologists, in fact I'm certain they do, but the refuge staff itself doesn't necessarily have a marine biologist, and even so, the wiers are no longer controlled by the government. A private entity is employed to operate the wiers as they were intended to be operated in the original Management Plan.

That being said, at the expense of a large fish kill, the wiers should be operated to allow the fishery to move around. But, I don't know what the science says about that.

It's definitely not deep enough back there. I imagine that water gets super cold, because I know from experience that it gets super hot in the summer.
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:28 PM
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Friends fishing today said water temp was 39-43· in biglake in 1-3ft water

In the mid 50's last week.

Widgeon Grass > Redfish -?
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:14 PM
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Friends fishing today said water temp was 39-43· in biglake in 1-3ft water

In the mid 50's last week.

Widgeon Grass > Redfish -?
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:29 PM
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Widgeon Grass> Human Life behind weirs
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, widgeon grass.

I'm with y'all on this one. Those weirs ought to be opened, even at the expense of the grass. That could kill quite a few fish, and a few days wont harm any vegetation.

Problem is, like I said, there is a management plan that they have to go by.

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Old 01-07-2014, 09:42 PM
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It's just redfish. Just think of all the crab food that will make.
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:45 AM
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anxious to see if there were any fish killed
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:10 AM
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I could be wrong but but they had some reports earlier in the week with pics and grand bayou looked wide open. Can anyone confirm that ?


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Old 01-08-2014, 10:21 AM
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Everything North of 4 corners looks good unless they haven't popped up yet
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:31 AM
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Everything North of 4 corners looks good unless they haven't popped up yet

I think were talking about behind the weirs only. Everything in the lake would just book it to the channel.


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Old 01-13-2014, 09:27 AM
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Any news on any fish kills that were being predicted by some?
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Old 01-13-2014, 09:36 AM
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Any news on any fish kills that were being predicted by some?
No one has been back there that I know of, but i did hear that some were saw floating in duck ponds

Just hear say
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