trout spawning?

["W"]

15 trout limit is Big Lake Epic Fail and it is showing now.......


And the stupidest thing ever was the two over 24 or what ever it is...

Had anyone ever been checked and ask to measure there fish???? I have been checked 25 times since limit change easy and never asked about size....all guides I know have never been asked


No one I know has been asked and I don't even measure a trout unless its close to 12inch

[swamp snorkler]

Originally Posted by jpeff31787

just like you would with the fillets?

Yes make sure you have a cover for the pot because sometimes they pop. Fry them about 2 minutes taste like a hush puppie

[TheLongRun]

When you are getting checked, is it enforcement or just creel surveys? I have fished Barataria bay my whole life, and can probably count on my fingers how many times ive ever had my fish checked. Life jackets and such, sure. But it's extremely rare to get pulled over to check fish (and it's usually during snapper season). Man, big lake sounds like a real clusterfk.

[cmdrost]

Originally Posted by "W"

And. 10 inch trout may spawn 8 times in one year where a 7lb trout may only spawn 2times

And 3lb trout will lay 10xs the eggs vs a 8-10lb trout

Ok. so using your numbers:

10 inch trout at 8 times a yr = 800,000 eggs

7 lb trout at 2 times a yr = 2 million eggs


All I was pointing out was the fact that big trout do release more eggs than smaller trout. I personally don't give a flying F if you keep em or not. IF you catch em, kill em all as far as I'm concerned. Your fish.

This is/was a civil conversation about SPAWNING. Take your other junk to another board or topic.

["W"]

Originally Posted by cmdrost

Ok. so using your numbers:

10 inch trout at 8 times a yr = 800,000 eggs

7 lb trout at 2 times a yr = 2 million eggs


All I was pointing out was the fact that big trout do release more eggs than smaller trout. I personally don't give a flying F if you keep em or not. IF you catch em, kill em all as far as I'm concerned. Your fish.

This is/was a civil conversation about SPAWNING. Take your other junk to another board or topic.

And 7lb trout out number 12inch trout by how many???????


Just admit the 15 trout limit was a screw up and now you can't change it

[cmdrost]

Originally Posted by "W"

And 7lb trout out number 12inch trout by how many???????


Just admit the 15 trout limit was a screw up and now you can't change it

go troll somewhere else.

Your original statement : "and older and real large females may not spawn at all or only once a year(reason why keeping them don't hurt) "

Then a secondary statement: "And. 10 inch trout may spawn 8 times in one year where a 7lb trout may only spawn 2times"


First they don't spawn at all, then 2 times a yr???

Anyone with a high school diploma knows large trout are in the minority. All I was saying is that they DO lay eggs. Lots of lots of eggs. What you choose to do with them is your choice.

["W"]

Originally Posted by "W"

Speckled trout exhibit a protracted spawning season, lasting from April to September. Females ready to spawn have even been recorded in March and October.

Only your 1st spawn is related to the full moon in March but after that most females spawn in cycles which studies show that a trout is likely to spawn at sunrise are sunset

Smaller females can spawn up to 7-10times a year while larger females may only spawn 2-3 times a year ...and older and real large females may not spawn at all or only once a year(reason why keeping them don't hurt)

Older and really large trout means 8lbs up....

Your biggest produces are from 12-16inch trout as they are over 80% of the population

So Mr Drost ... What is the ratio of fish caught to get a 7lb plus trout

????
1000 to 1
1500 to 1
2000 to 1
So 7lb plus trout are. 1 % of the population ????

Keep drinking that politic kool aid ..

[TheLongRun]

LSU has a speck expert. Almost all the articles published on the topic are authored by him, or cite him. I bet if you google it you can figure it out. Why don't y'all just email and ask if this is sound policy or not? Rather than getting information from politicians with agendas and/or locals with vested interests? Neither of those should be considered credible sources.

[TheLongRun]

Also, still curious how long it's been in effect. Anyone?

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by TheLongRun

Also, still curious how long it's been in effect. Anyone?

I have been checking. The LDWF web site only had records back 2 years. I guess that is when they "upgraded" the web site.

I could not find anything on my computer. My old computer "crashed" and I lost a lot of my old information. My best guess is that the Trout limit on Big Lake was change in June of 2006.

[TheLongRun]

Thanks!

Yeah, they upgraded quite a few things about 2 years ago. That doesn't surprise me. So did NMFS and NOAA I believe...

It'd be interesting to get some actual data, pre and post, to see if the new limits had adversely affected the fishery. The sampling data is somewhere, just gotta find it. For all the passionate, and clearly feisty, people so emotionally invested in this issue... Facts are fun. Go find them!

If they reduced the limits on my lil piece of water, I'd be the first one beating down doors demanding answers to the simple questions.

[jchief]

BUT, what other factors besides limits come into play?????

How about number of fishermen, weirs, rain, wind, sunlight, etc etc etc

I don't beleive it is as simple as any of us would like it to be.

[TheLongRun]

Yes, but if the only variable that has changed over multiple years long surveys is the limit (that's a big one, it's basically predatory pressure) you can at least draw basic conclusions. Would it hold up to peer review, probably not. But its not about being published, its about drawing common sense conclusions.

Things like the weather vary weekend to weekend. Month to month. Survey data isn't about who caught what, which weekend. It's about the state of the fishery over the long term.

["W"]

Originally Posted by jchief

BUT, what other factors besides limits come into play?????

How about number of fishermen, weirs, rain, wind, sunlight, etc etc etc

I don't beleive it is as simple as any of us would like it to be.

One guide service , few lawyers ,few guys with money ,CCA power and u get what u want

[BROWN FIN]

Originally Posted by "W"

One guide service , few lawyers ,few guys with money ,CCA power and u get what u want

Agreed!!!

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

You want to know why it got changed......
Jack Lawton, Jr., Bob Bush, Gus Schram III,

seems like its always Bush's fault

[Ray]

Calling it a Trophy Lake hurts our lake more than anything else.
When I say I fish on Big Lake, the folks on the East side of the state say something like, Oh yeah, ya'll got all them big Trout.
That attracts more fishermen.
The internet didn't help either.
I know HRG posts pictures of fish they didn't catch, and pictures of fish caught other years, and makes it look like they caught them this week.

[BIG RED 1983]

25 trout limit in vb and still see and hear bigger fish caught in big lake is the reason because of location of big lake vs location of vb not trying to stir the pot i just know that some of you guys are a lot more informed about trout than i am

["W"]

Originally Posted by Ray

I know HRG posts pictures of fish they didn't catch, and pictures of fish caught other years, and makes it look like they caught them this week.

Say it aint so...they pushed the 15 hard because half there guys can't catch 100 trout a day...

[meaux fishing]

Originally Posted by BIG RED 1983

25 trout limit in vb and still see and hear bigger fish caught in big lake is the reason because of location of big lake vs location of vb not trying to stir the pot i just know that some of you guys are a lot more informed about trout than i am

there are 7-9lb fish caught in VB just not as many because it doesnt stay as salty as big lake all year. Also people dont talk about em over there as much