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Old 09-25-2011, 02:55 PM
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What does general public think about when u lose a guides rod and reel that they didn't rent? Trying to see if I was coming cross as an a$$ or what? Do they think bc they bought a trip they r allowed to break stuff etc how do u handle it. I was so mad I was bout to explode 3rd rod and reel lost in a month.. Didn't say anything bout last 2 but this one was 400$ combo I told the guy he just bought it and he didnt wanna pay I explained to the guy this is how I make my living I can't be fishing and lose money he eventually paid but wasn't happy
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Old 09-25-2011, 02:59 PM
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I think they should replace what they lose/break. No question!

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Old 09-25-2011, 02:59 PM
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I would make anyone who isn't bringing their own gear rent mine. Seems fair enough. If ya don't do that and gear breaks, that's a gray area that's very easy for a client to argue. If they lose it, its a whole different deal.
Rent it out so, when these things come about, at least you have been getting a return on your investments.

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I think they should replace what they lose/break. No question!

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X2 use your own rods or pay the price if you break someone else's.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:00 PM
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Cost of business my friend, let it go . If dude smacked it on the hull out of anger then yes he bought it, but accidents happen and why in hell did u let a client use a 400$ combo?
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:03 PM
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Jared, when I was guiding, I put "floaties" on the spinning tackle my customers used.

They did not use my baitcasting stuff unless I knew them well.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:05 PM
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Cost of business my friend, let it go . If dude smacked it on the hull out of anger then yes he bought it, but accidents happen and why in hell did u let a client use a 400$ combo?
I didn't I have client rods and I show them which ones they can use and when I was on deck he grabbed mine and went to cast it and splash in the water I dove in 4 it in for 20 min drug anchor crankbait jig etc trying to get it wouldn't have cared if it was one of 150 combo but he had no biz touching that 1
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:08 PM
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Jared, when I was guiding, I put "floaties" on the spinning tackle my customers used.

They did not use my baitcasting stuff unless I knew them well.
Where can I get those never seen em do they get in way?
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:47 PM
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Simple do like the Big Guide outfits....Charge for every rod used

Don't ever let them use a $400 rod combo...that's the 1st mistake

But simple all star or Falcon rods with a cheaper shimano reel...

Have a bunch of spin cast....

That way if you have 4 rods rented that day...its $60 bucks....and if you go 3 trips with out losing or braking one your good....and if they lose one its covered

I don't let my wife use my rod and reels

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I didn't I have client rods and I show them which ones they can use and when I was on deck he grabbed mine and went to cast it and splash in the water I dove in 4 it in for 20 min drug anchor crankbait jig etc trying to get it wouldn't have cared if it was one of 150 combo but he had no biz touching that 1
i wouldnt let people use my good combos either but in that case he took it upon hiself to use a rod he wasnt supposed to. Thats his fault and you are not wrong for making him pay.
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They are a little big and take some getting used to.

http://reviews.basspro.com/2010/1651...ws/reviews.htm

Check out the link for some reviews
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You breaky, you buy. I dont have anything worth allot to many people but worth allot to me so no one uses my stuff unless they can replace, I have talked to friends that go on guided trips and they say they only rent inexpensive spin cast or you can bring your own nice stuff.
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:19 PM
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George threw your pole in the water???
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You breaky, you buy. I dont have anything worth allot to many people but worth allot to me so no one uses my stuff unless they can replace, I have talked to friends that go on guided trips and they say they only rent inexpensive spin cast or you can bring your own nice stuff.
Agree here. I am always leary to borrow someones gear just because I don't want to be the one to break it or have something go wrong. Now if its a shimano rod, I aint so worried if it breaks.
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I think normal wear and tear, including rod breakage, would be on you and covered under the trip. Now losing a rod/reel is a different story and wouldn't constitute "normal"…so yeah, they should pay.
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:00 PM
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dont rent the rod and reels, if they use your rod and reels make them pay a deposit up front. If they grab your rod and reel without permission and lose it, he definately pays or swims back to the dock!!! I believe if you rent a rod and reel you will lose clients, if you charge a deposit they will bring thier own or know where they stand if they lose it.
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Tough situation. You may have made a good call but I guarantee that nobody on that boat will ever use your service again and they will bad mouth you to everyone they know and tell them not to use you either. Maybe should have bit the bullet, you still have a business to run.
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Just and FYI, renting rods to clients is very common. Most guides carry 3 or 4 spinning combos just for this reason.

When I was guiding, I bought 4 Shimano spinning combos from Academy for about $40. Charged $10 a day rental. Paid for themselves in about 3 weeks.
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:10 PM
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George threw your pole in the water???
No not George guy today
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:16 PM
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It wasn't my clients I was guiding 4 sum1 else if it was my client I could have ate it and w tip still coulda made money I was guiding 4 sum1 else today and was only gettin paid 300 had no choice on renting en wasn't my trip
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