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tgsx750f2000 · #1 08-15-2013, 01:35 PM

Has anyone heard anything about the Wiers opening for shrimp season? It would suck if they don't open! I catch all my shrimp for the year there each year. I was told by someone that called the number and spoke to a person that if we don't get enough rain they won't be opening them.

"W" · #2 08-15-2013, 01:45 PM

Not going to open until get at least 6inchs of rain

Our man made structures at work !! Choke off the lakes life support...right now we should have shrimp pouring out of that marsh on falling tides

Evans · #3 08-15-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by "W"

Not going to open until get at least 6inchs of rain

Our man made structures at work !! Choke off the lakes life support...right now we should have shrimp pouring out of that marsh on falling tides

That's not good for catching shrimp or fish!!!

mstulb · #4 08-16-2013, 03:52 PM

Yep I agree with you, especially just so a select few can have a little more widgeon grass in there pond. sorry but bs

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Not going to open until get at least 6inchs of rain

Our man made structures at work !! Choke off the lakes life support...right now we should have shrimp pouring out of that marsh on falling tides

Slidellkid · #5 08-15-2013, 02:50 PM

When is shrimp season?

"W" · #6 08-15-2013, 02:58 PM

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When is shrimp season?

Opened Monday

specksNdaSURF · #7 08-15-2013, 07:15 PM

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When is shrimp season?

Tom

swampman46 · #8 08-15-2013, 07:22 PM

You guys talking about the Rockerfeller wiers?

Montauk17 · #9 08-15-2013, 10:47 PM

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You guys talking about the Rockerfeller wiers?

Grand bayou weir in calcasieu lake.

Top Dawg · #10 08-16-2013, 05:52 PM

Teal season gonna be on! Come one september

Duck Butter · #11 08-16-2013, 06:39 PM

I just listened to 3 solid hours of talks on freshwater diversions and it was very civil even though there was disagreement on a few things, mainly the cause of the land loss below Caernarvon. There were 2 oceanographers, 2 geologists, and a plant ecologist. Some pointed towards Hurrican Rita, some towards the diversion for the land loss. One of the take home points was that for every acre of dredged canal you lose 4-5 acres of marsh. One of the things that they all agreed upon was that saltwater is the worst thing that can happen to a marsh. There are different types of marshes, and they can all tolerate salinity differently but saltwater for long periods of time will kill it all. The poster child for this is Sabine NWR where Rita brought saltwater and kept it on the landscape for long periods of time. You can see it on Google Earth and any aerial photos that the land was lost and isn't coming back. THIS is what you get when you have saltwater come into a system for long periods of time.

The people that are 'benefitting' from keeping saltwater out of that marsh is everyone in Louisiana

Ask Vermilion Parish rice farmers about saltwater intrusion and what it does to crops (i.e. their livelihood)

widgeongrass can handle a little salinity also

"W" · #12 08-16-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter

I just listened to 3 solid hours of talks on freshwater diversions and it was very civil even though there was disagreement on a few things, mainly the cause of the land loss below Caernarvon. There were 2 oceanographers, 2 geologists, and a plant ecologist. Some pointed towards Hurrican Rita, some towards the diversion for the land loss. One of the take home points was that for every acre of dredged canal you lose 4-5 acres of marsh. One of the things that they all agreed upon was that saltwater is the worst thing that can happen to a marsh. There are different types of marshes, and they can all tolerate salinity differently but saltwater for long periods of time will kill it all. The poster child for this is Sabine NWR where Rita brought saltwater and kept it on the landscape for long periods of time. You can see it on Google Earth and any aerial photos that the land was lost and isn't coming back. THIS is what you get when you have saltwater come into a system for long periods of time.

The people that are 'benefitting' from keeping saltwater out of that marsh is everyone in Louisiana

Ask Vermilion Parish rice farmers about saltwater intrusion and what it does to crops (i.e. their livelihood)

widgeongrass can handle a little salinity also

In other words "Save the Widgeon Grass"

mstulb · #13 08-17-2013, 08:48 AM

Yes but isn't it ironic these marshes survived for hundreds of years with no "saving weir system". I agree a massive saltwater influx is of course not good for a marsh overall over an extended period of time but in this particular case that giant marsh system is a hatchery for shrimp and it is being cut off by a man made weir system.

No weir system on the east bank of Sabine, and those marshes look healthy to me. Shrimp all over that estuary right now, and you can ask any shrimper calcasieu is dried out. Any correlation maybe/maybe not.

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter

I just listened to 3 solid hours of talks on freshwater diversions and it was very civil even though there was disagreement on a few things, mainly the cause of the land loss below Caernarvon. There were 2 oceanographers, 2 geologists, and a plant ecologist. Some pointed towards Hurrican Rita, some towards the diversion for the land loss. One of the take home points was that for every acre of dredged canal you lose 4-5 acres of marsh. One of the things that they all agreed upon was that saltwater is the worst thing that can happen to a marsh. There are different types of marshes, and they can all tolerate salinity differently but saltwater for long periods of time will kill it all. The poster child for this is Sabine NWR where Rita brought saltwater and kept it on the landscape for long periods of time. You can see it on Google Earth and any aerial photos that the land was lost and isn't coming back. THIS is what you get when you have saltwater come into a system for long periods of time.

The people that are 'benefitting' from keeping saltwater out of that marsh is everyone in Louisiana

Ask Vermilion Parish rice farmers about saltwater intrusion and what it does to crops (i.e. their livelihood)

widgeongrass can handle a little salinity also

Duck Butter · #14 08-17-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mstulb

Yes but isn't it ironic these marshes survived for hundreds of years with no "saving weir system". I agree a massive saltwater influx is of course not good for a marsh overall over an extended period of time but in this particular case that giant marsh system is a hatchery for shrimp and it is being cut off by a man made weir system.

No weir system on the east bank of Sabine, and those marshes look healthy to me. Shrimp all over that estuary right now, and you can ask any shrimper calcasieu is dried out. Any correlation maybe/maybe not.

The ship channel is the entire problem for saltwater intrusion. A straight north to south route is the easiest route for saltwater intrusion. The weirs were put in place to mitigate for this. The marshes to the west have not recovered from Rita, I mentioned that earlier and you can look at Google Earth and switch frames from year to year and see this. The shrimp are plentiful because they feed upon decaying vegetation and there isn't a shortage of that in Louisiana and will not be for the forseeable future

Smalls · #15 08-17-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mstulb

Yes but isn't it ironic these marshes survived for hundreds of years with no "saving weir system". I agree a massive saltwater influx is of course not good for a marsh overall over an extended period of time but in this particular case that giant marsh system is a hatchery for shrimp and it is being cut off by a man made weir system.

No weir system on the east bank of Sabine, and those marshes look healthy to me. Shrimp all over that estuary right now, and you can ask any shrimper calcasieu is dried out. Any correlation maybe/maybe not.

Go look up all the past posts on this. I've been doing a lot of research on those marshes in the last 3 years, and a lot of that I point out in those posts.

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