and They do it again

["W"]

I have several family members who are teachers and they all say the Union is part of the problem, when it comes to good teachers

Only way a teacher gets fired is if she or he has sex with a student

[SaltERedneck]

[capt hoop]

Retired aerospace worker. Life time union member. I saw them build up good wages, working conditions, and bennies.

Unions are a business! The company is your place of employment. The union is your brother that you have to support with the wages you make from the company you work for.

I agree with many here that the unions are a thing of the past and are not need as they were before. Unfortunatly there are still companys that try to get away with paying inferior wages for the work being done. When NAFTA came in during the Clinton error that was the begining of the downfall of our country. The unions were against it but still backed all the political people that pushed it through.

As a safety rep.I was representing 23 people that got put in harms way and some had eye injuries and razor cuts by various stupid pranks done by one of the workers. At the grievence hearing I recommened the person be dismissed because of his previous actions combined with the latest one. I was hauled into Union HQ and I refused to back down. They were fighting for the one individule to save his job. I was doing my job by fighting for and protecting 23 fellow workers from further injuries. I refused to give the original pictures to either the union or the company. They each had copies of the damage and injuries. Before all was said and done I was summoned to court but by the company to represent them due to my hard stance on this issue. I was relieved of my position in the union. The day before we were to go to court the company and the union settled. He was dismissed with a small lump sum payment and could never again get employment in any UTC company.

The person chosen to take my place in the union and one of my fellow workers started a petition to have me reinstated and the union reinstated me as the safety rep.

A life time union man but do not agree with a lot of what they push. They do have a way of cutting into the functioning of a company to the point of closing. The union is for the workers, yes, but they are also for themselves.

[jlsch1]

My mother's family was 100% union at one time and some were local leaders back in the 60's and 70's. They use to train the trades, provide benefits, and it was a good bang for the buck to the worker Union member (brother or sister) and the company.

I have been union and non union and went to both training schools when younger.
At one time I could weld looking into a small mirror trying to weld in a boiler where it was a tight fit to get into.
I did learn that both in a union and non union boilermaker school.
Training was going down in the union schools in early 90's while the non union schools were getting better.
Yes, I remember when I was called a scab, rat worker, etc by the same people who could not even fit in a boiler to repair them.
Union lost what made it strong from faith in the membership to trusting the rank file due to past issues of stealing people's retirements.

In late 70's and 80's they got greedy and instead of concentrating on improving training and keeping up with the times they let what made them competitive go down the toilet.

Some locations the leaders stole the members money and retirement.
Barbers Union had that done to them and a few other unions.

Some companies organized and started organizations such as ABC which is similar to the union as far as training goes.

Let's see now people have other options to find a group that not organized, competitive to market, and just as well trained.

Not hard to see the businesses wanting to go non-union.

Today the Union just a group you pay membership to and nothing to make a union worker stand out or be a value to the business owner.

[Ragin_Cajun]

Amen to that!!!!!

["W"]

Vast Majority of Manufacturing Job Losses Are Union Jobs

["W"]

MADRID (Reuters) - A restructuring plan that could see up to 7,000 job losses will be revealed by Spanish airline Iberia at a meeting with labor unions on Friday, union sources said on Wednesday.
Business at Iberia, part of International Airlines Group together with British Airways, has been hit by recession and high unemployment in Spain, which remains at the center of the euro zone sovereign debt crisis.
"We have been summoned for Friday and the only thing we know is that they want to announce a massive staff layoff plan," said a spokesman at CTA, the union for land-staff personnel for Iberia, which has some 20,000 employees.
Unions have been expecting layoffs for months of between 4,000 and 7,000 workers due to the ongoing effects of Spain's recession and the progressive shifting of its short to medium distance flight routes to its low cost carrier Iberia Express.
In the first half of the year, Iberia reported an operating net loss of 263 million euros ($336.68 million). Iberia executives have said in the past they would announce a restructuring plan after the summer.
Iberia did not want to make any official comment but union sources said the company's board would meet on Wednesday to analyze both staff layoff plans and nine-month results.
"It's possible that some information could be leaked during this meeting," a union source said.
Iberia's parent IAG is due to present nine-month results and host an investor's day in London on Friday, which is a bank holiday in Madrid. ($1 = 0.7812 euros) (Reporting by Robert Hetz, writing by Jesús Aguado; editing by Tracy Rucinski, Ron Askew)

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by "W"

Vast Majority of Manufacturing Job Losses Are Union Jobs

Scary part about that graph is both union and non union jobs been on the steady decrease.

[jlsch1]

China getting stronger
1. They are limiting production of minerals from their mines that are used in high tech products. Reason they claim evinroment, but they also want to gain the high tech chip mfg jobs.

2. How I would overcome this.
A. Offer tax incentives to open US mines with same minerals and ease evinronmental regulations. You still have common sense approach to make the area safe, but when go overboard something is wrong.

B. Offer tax free zones for schools to open up to train people in the mining industry within these districts.
If the business is within the district a worker pays a small fee monthly along with business to keep school up which still less than regular taxes.
If it is a small business they would also get financial help if they got a good business plan which is what small businesses need.


Same thing with chip mfg in those districts, but maybe have the chip mfg in the same area as the mines to cut shipping of minerals to mfg.
Build a transportation airport and rail line to get shipments out of area to ports in the area of the mine and mills.

Maybe with the $1.72 Million or billion we gave to the country in the middle east we could use our money to invest in our country and help small business owners grow.

Then I would take over Poland which is the Mexico of Europe and have our warehouse and airport in that country to break down our products. I would have a European and Russian setup to pass import inspections in the any country in the region and ship our products in Europe and Russia. Do small mfg over there to keep the Polish people happy.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

Scary part about that graph is both union and non union jobs been on the steady decrease.

4 years of Obama and add 4 more years to the already decline

[jdm4x43732]

Union workers better learn Chinese just like the rest of us.

[Top Dawg]

According to the creditors’ court filing, the following Hostess executives saw substantial salary increases in July 2011:

Brian Driscoll, CEO, from around $750,000 to $2,550,000
Gary Wandscheider, EVP, $500,000 to $900,000
John Stewart, EVP, $400,000 to $700,000
David Loeser, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256
Kent Magill, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256
Richard Seban, EVP, $375,00o to $656,256
John Akeson, SVP, $300,000 to $480,000
Steven Birgfeld, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000
Martha Ross, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000
Rob Kissick, SVP, $182,000 t0 $273,008
[Note: The WSJ article observes that some executives did not take the full raise.]

Take all the money and blame it on the uni

[bmac]

Hey they earned that money! Big Wiggin ain't easy!

[mikedatiger]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

According to the creditors’ court filing, the following Hostess executives saw substantial salary increases in July 2011:

Brian Driscoll, CEO, from around $750,000 to $2,550,000
Gary Wandscheider, EVP, $500,000 to $900,000
John Stewart, EVP, $400,000 to $700,000
David Loeser, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256
Kent Magill, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256
Richard Seban, EVP, $375,00o to $656,256
John Akeson, SVP, $300,000 to $480,000
Steven Birgfeld, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000
Martha Ross, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000
Rob Kissick, SVP, $182,000 t0 $273,008
[Note: The WSJ article observes that some executives did not take the full raise.]

Take all the money and blame it on the uni

So are company executives not supposed to make money?? If you started your own business would you want someone telling you how much money you are allowed to make?

I am not saying those salaries are justified as I haven't done a comparative analysis, but the ever changing mentality in this country that it's wrong to make money has me scratching my head...

[southern151]

Originally Posted by mikedatiger

So are company executives not supposed to make money?? If you started your own business would you want someone telling you how much money you are allowed to make?

I am not saying those salaries are justified as I haven't done a comparative analysis, but the ever changing mentality in this country that it's wrong to make money has me scratching my head...

Ditto! So sick of hearing about those "evil 1%ers!" It's the name of the game, making money!

I'm gonna make as much of my business as I can and dump it in about 10-15 years if everything works out.

[eman]

I have stayed out of this one till now.
I have worked both union and non union jobs in the plants just by changing hard hats. In 1976 i graduated H.S. and went to see my uncle who was a B.A. for local 198 about a job. he told me then ,I'll give you a job ,but don't get to comfortable. The unions in La. have just about priced themselves out of work. He was right?

[joeymaloz]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

According to the creditors’ court filing, the following Hostess executives saw substantial salary increases in July 2011:

Brian Driscoll, CEO, from around $750,000 to $2,550,000
Gary Wandscheider, EVP, $500,000 to $900,000
John Stewart, EVP, $400,000 to $700,000
David Loeser, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256
Kent Magill, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256
Richard Seban, EVP, $375,00o to $656,256
John Akeson, SVP, $300,000 to $480,000
Steven Birgfeld, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000
Martha Ross, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000
Rob Kissick, SVP, $182,000 t0 $273,008
[Note: The WSJ article observes that some executives did not take the full raise.]

Take all the money and blame it on the uni

but what mo fo needs to make 2,550,000-700,000 per year!!!! i dont give a f$$k what you can do... you aint worth that kinda money..............

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by mikedatiger

So are company executives not supposed to make money?? If you started your own business would you want someone telling you how much money you are allowed to make?

I am not saying those salaries are justified as I haven't done a comparative analysis, but the ever changing mentality in this country that it's wrong to make money has me scratching my head...

Lol. If they wanna take every penny that's fine. But don't give yourself a 300% raise and the company is bankrupt a year later and blame it on the working hands lol.

["W"]

Just write this down... Unions in La will be extinct by 2020

[Top Dawg]

Pretty sure America will be extinct by 2020