Fertilizer Prices

[wtretrievers]

Alright several threads have popped up in the last few days about deer season, food plots etc.........anyone checked out fertilizer prices lately. Last year I paid around $11 a 40lb sack the year before was under $10. Cheapest I've found in the past week has been $19.95 for 40lbs!!! $50 pounds is running close to $25! That's for triple 13

Let us know what you find cheaper, PLEASE!!!!!

I need no less than a 1000 lbs!

[yak'em-n-stack'em]

not trying to call you out,

but how do you know that triple 13 is what you need, and how do you know the rates?

it may pay off for you to get some soil samples analyzed and do some specific fertilization

[wtretrievers]

Originally Posted by yak'em-n-stack'em

not trying to call you out,

but how do you know that triple 13 is what you need, and how do you know the rates?

it may pay off for you to get some soil samples analyzed and do some specific fertilization

Already did that......... Triple 13 & I don't remember the other that was recommended, the "other" was hard to find, Plus Lime. Usually pull a sample bout every 5 years or if I have a new area & soil type.

[yak'em-n-stack'em]

gotcha, just wanted to make sure,


a lot of people spend way too much money when they dont need to

[wtretrievers]

Alot of places lime is more important than fertilizer. Alot of people don't realize that.

[Ray]

Lime helps with acid in the soil.
If you have lots of Pine, you have acid.
When I moved where I live now, I had hell getting the grass to grow.
They sampled the soil and told me to put out some lime.
Now I gots green grass. Lots of it.

[rkent]

Why don't you buy it in the bulk from a fertilizer and seed dealer?

[Is it October YET?]

Did you check any of the places on 61 in MS on your way up?

[LPfishnTIM]

check Dykes in Montpelier, I'd call em first

[wtretrievers]

Originally Posted by rkent

Why don't you buy it in the bulk from a fertilizer and seed dealer?

That's the next thing I'm fixing to do

Originally Posted by Is it October YET?

Did you check any of the places on 61 in MS on your way up?

No.....usually when I leave it's to late when I come thru there

Originally Posted by LPfishnTIM

check Dykes in Montpelier, I'd call em first

I'll give 'em a call, I do go up hwy 16 on my way to the camp sometimes.

Way the prices are by the sack it'll cost me over $500 in just fertilizer.....that's not counting seed!!!!!!!!!!!

[wtretrievers]

Originally Posted by Ray

Lime helps with acid in the soil.
If you have lots of Pine, you have acid.
When I moved where I live now, I had hell getting the grass to grow.
They sampled the soil and told me to put out some lime.
Now I gots green grass. Lots of it.

Yeah......some of the plots we have were loading areas for the loggers & was full of pine limbs & bark, we took soil samples, very acidic. Some areas were less than a 1/3 of an acre & took over 2 tons of lime to get the ph right. Before You couldn't grow weeds in that crap!

[Is it October YET?]

Also try in Port Gibson.

[LaAngler]

u makin a bomb?

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by yak'em-n-stack'em

not trying to call you out,

but how do you know that triple 13 is what you need, and how do you know the rates?

it may pay off for you to get some soil samples analyzed and do some specific fertilization

Just my experience with soil sample.....

When I started my garden a couple of years ago, I tilled up ~ 8" deep [soil has lots of clay] and added 6 yards of "flower bed" mulch [mostly sand and ground up would chips]. I fertilized ~ 3x what I normally put on the lawn. This was for a fall garden.

During the early spring, I added a lot of chopped up leaves, some fertilizer and tilled that in. About a month later, I took soil samples to LSU.

Results came back and most of the test showed everything to be in the high or very high range. pH was 7.5 so I figured I needed something to lower the pH. But to be on the safe side......I called our LSU Ag office.

Mr. T. looked up my results on the computer. He said not to be conserned with the pH. He said most garden plants can grow good in soil up to an 8 pH. Also said no fertilizer is needed.....but ok to add some.

Well the fall garden had done fairly well so I put out about the same amount of fertilezer and planted, thinking everything would grow good.

The young green beans were the first to show signs of some yellowing.

Short story.....my soil need a lot more fertilizer to "green" up the been plants. Maybe the leaves absorbed a lot of the fertrilizer? I still don't know if the 7.5 pH is part of my "growing" problem.

This spring I added a lot more leaves [did I say there was a high amount of pine needles with the leaves]. I also added ~35 # of 13-13-13, which is ~ 4x more that than the two previous plantings. The garden is ~ 15' x 25'.

Needless to say......I don't put much faith in soil sampling. I think [my gut feeling] something to lower the pH could help the plants to absorb the fertilizer better. This is why I have added the pine needles....maybe it is helping?????

Here is the results.

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[speck-chaser]

triple 13 fert. is a good quick boost,but thats about it. You have to be careful not to burn stuff with it too. It pretty much releases all at once(prolly withing a few weeks time depending on the frequency of water) You may want to go with something that will feed for 3-4 months,with some slow release fert. It is more expensive,but you pretty much get what you pay for in fertilizers.

Gerald, you did the right thing in lowering your ph in the soil. More times than not,there are more plants out there that are a lot happier with a slightly acidic soil. There is a great prduct called Ironite that will lower you ph and give your plants a terrific green color. Fertilizers are kinda like chlorine in a pool. If the ph isnt right the plant will not be able to absorb the fert(no matter how much there is of it) because it cant be broken down in the state that its in; hence you might have plenty of chlorine in a pool,but if your ph is too high,you will prolly have trouble keeping your water clear.

[wtretrievers]

Fertilizer as a whole is high!

Triple 13 is what was recommended, I've never had any problem with it on the places that it was recommended for after soil samples, my plots will start turning yellow in the spring, It's winter wheat & winter oats, it's going to turn yellow, early spring they still look good & were planted in late Sept.
I also put ammonium nitrate about twice during the season.

Just giving a heads up on the prices

[yak'em-n-stack'em]

Gerald

high pHs limit the uptake of certain nutrients thus, at a very high pH of 8 your plants may not be getting the correct micro nutrients.

many people think that the only nutrients are N,P,K.

there are actually 14 other essential nutrients that all need to be in balance.
Different plants deplete and deposit these nutrients different ways

as far as your opinion on soil samples, as important as getting the sample done, it is just as important to have a soil scientist read the results and make a recommendation.

no offense to your parish agent, but he may not be qualified in this area.

thats just my take on things,

i have some presentations from my soil fertility classes on my laptop at home if anyone would like to see them i can email them, maybe it will help you out

[Is it October YET?]

If ya'll would "crank" down on all of the meth labs in Central than the prices wouldn't be so high! Wait I mean what could be causing such an increase?

[wtretrievers]

Originally Posted by Is it October YET?

If ya'll would "crank" down on all of the meth labs in Central than the prices wouldn't be so high! Wait I mean what could be causing such an increase?

That would be to the east of the "Central" river! Cookin it up in LP!

[wtretrievers]

Did find some cheaper prices.....

Cheapest so far, this is quoted for triple 13 & Lime both 50lb sacks

Benny G's in Delcambre
$13.00
$5.95

Tri parish in Slaughter
$12.35
$5.75

Dykes in Montpelier
$11.00
$6.00

Won't be long before everyone goes to looking for it. If yall find anything at a good price help everyone out & post please.