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Natural Light Kid 06-09-2010 07:01 PM

40 Merc
 
I know I'm about to open a huge can of worms. I bought one of the good old Mercury 40's that everyone claims runs anywhere form 40-99 MPH. I put it on a Southfork 16x46 flat bottom with a jackplate. Same set up with my old 25 Suzuki would run 30 +/-. With the 40 it's running 35+/-. According to everything I hear, it's hard to get those motors to run under 40 MPH on anything. I have
my jackplate set up so that I'm on the verge of blowing out so I don't think I can come up any higher. It is a stock motor with stock carbs. I had the carbs cleaned a couple of months ago when I bought the motor but could it be possible they are not in sync, adjusted right, etc.? I have a tach and I'm only turning up about 5200 RPM. The prop is stamped 14 pitch and does not appear to be altered.

LaAngler 06-09-2010 07:14 PM

is it the 3 cylinder? most people run 60 carbs in those motors

maybe try lowering the jackplate, also before someone asks which size prop?

Ray 06-09-2010 07:49 PM

5200 is not bad. I think they have a rev. limiter on some of those 40's.

Montauk17 06-09-2010 07:56 PM

I would drop the pitch to a 12p and add some extra cup if you want to run it high on a jackplate. Is it a 3cly or a 4cly?

Natural Light Kid 06-09-2010 08:25 PM

This is a 3 cyl and it's a 14" pitch prop.

SULPHITE 06-09-2010 08:27 PM

I got the 3 cyl with 60 carbs, jack plate - 16' alweld w/ trolly...I think I have a 14 pitch prop I run two people and gear 36 to 37 mph...

Natural Light Kid 06-09-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 162682)
I got the 3 cyl with 60 carbs, jack plate - 16' alweld w/ trolly...I think I have a 14 pitch prop I run two people and gear 36 to 37 mph...

That sounds like an honest man. I question that some people are running as fast as they say. Reality is that a lot of these "40 MPH" boats don't really run 40 on a GPS. I'm running mid 30's on a GPS and maybe that's all it gonna do without 60 carbs. I just wanted some input.

SULPHITE 06-09-2010 08:34 PM

I'm sure I could hit forty if I would change the prop and mess with the jack plate....but frankly its fast enough for me...

some folks have alot more mods that could push them well over forty but I'm not a engine buff so I'm not gonna get these mods done and then f something up and not be able to fix it myself.

Ray 06-09-2010 08:35 PM

I had a 20 X 36 Weldcraft with a tunnel hull and a 40 HP with a 14P prop. with some cup, that ran in the mid 30's.
I carried pretty heavy loads when alligator hunting and duck hunting. I didn't want top end speed as much as I wanted to get on top fast and carry a load.

2ndamendment 06-09-2010 09:36 PM

Those 3 cylinder 25 Suzuki's are darn near bullet proof.

Montauk17 06-09-2010 09:40 PM

The 3cyl merc is a tough motor too,look at how many you see on crawfish skiffs.

Ray 06-09-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndamendment (Post 162738)
Those 3 cylinder 25 Suzuki's are darn near bullet proof.

That's what I had before I got the 40 Merc.
It wasn't built as good as the Merc.
I broke off several parts and the tiller handle broke off also.
It ran good, but didn't stay together well.

LaAngler 06-09-2010 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndamendment (Post 162738)
Those 3 cylinder 25 Suzuki's are darn near bullet proof.

in freshwater


Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 162743)
You are not going to get very much more than that unless you want to spend some money on it. When you hop them up all you doing is taking the life out of them. Want to go faster get a bigger motor

carbs, reeds, and exhaust tuner won't really decrease the life. When you get to shaving metal it does.

Natural Light Kid 06-10-2010 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 162779)
in freshwater




carbs, reeds, and exhaust tuner won't really decrease the life. When you get to shaving metal it does.

anyone have any suggestions on where I can find some 60 carbs? I would t mind doing that but I'm not gonna do anything that's gonna tame life off of the motor. I also don't want to spend a bunch of money for a couple of MPH. It's just not worth it to me. I was mainly looking to get everything I could with what I have. I didn't k ow if someone held the secret to that.

southern151 06-10-2010 09:26 AM

I've got a 40 Merc on my tank! 17.5'x 48", all 3/16th aluminum and it pushes plenty for me. The only thing that has been changed is the prop.

By GPS, it ran 32mph with two men, shotguns, a dog and 3 dozen decoys on Wax lake. Since I can't aim for crap, I'm sure there were also several hundred rounds in the boat as well!:*****: While I don't know the speed, it would still get up on top (took a while) with 28 sacks of crawfish, two men and 150lbs of bait!

I don't see me worrying about spending $600 or so on new carbs to gain a few MPH. BTW, I don't know that they cost that much but, I'm sure they aren't cheap!

Raymond 06-10-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 162876)
anyone have any suggestions on where I can find some 60 carbs? I would t mind doing that but I'm not gonna do anything that's gonna tame life off of the motor. I also don't want to spend a bunch of money for a couple of MPH. It's just not worth it to me. I was mainly looking to get everything I could with what I have. I didn't k ow if someone held the secret to that.

NLK, I also have a Merc 40 on a 18x42 tunnel, 14p wheel and run 38 on GPS with scary hole shot. Is your wheel cuped? How much? Tuning that motor is going to cost you a grand minimun, do you really want to spend that much for maybe 10 mph? Don't forget you will need a fuel barge to follow you since Sulphite says you can see the level fall wide open. I'd suggest LaAnglers fix, reeds,exhaust tuner.

southern151 06-10-2010 09:30 AM

The best part for me is that we would run a minimum of 7 hrs a day and never used more than 5 gal of fuel in it! It's a beast in the trees and fuel efficient!

SULPHITE 06-10-2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Sulphite says you can see the level fall wide open
yes she does drink gas like margaritas!!

Feesherman 06-10-2010 10:55 AM

You should be turning more like 5800 RPM. You need to play with the prop. I have the same engine with CMC'd carbs and a new reed plate. It dinos at 65.5-66hp. The rev limiter is gone. You can safely run it at 6000rpm. The best I can get is 5900RPM and that is by myself with no load. I run a heavy boat. 1648, all 100gauge aluminum, steering console, floor, 3 batterys, trollin motor and 12 gallon tank. I can get er up to 40mph.

Natural Light Kid 06-10-2010 11:02 AM

Cmc'd carbs? Do tell. How much and where. I totally agree with the RPM statement. I would like to turn a little over 5500 and I'm not there.


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