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Jordan 08-23-2011 12:26 PM

Steering for 90 yamaha
 
As some of you know, Bohunterbiff is having an issue with the steering on his 18' express. The steering is locked up to the left and will not budge. It currently has a rotary steering system on it. Does anyone know how hard it is to replace this with the same system ?? Best i can explain the problems is that there is a sleeve that connects the motor to the transom mounts. There is a rod inside that sleeve that connects a bar to the motor. That bar is "stuck" in the sleeve. Is this bar supposed to expand and come out of the sleeve ?? Im trying to help him keep his boat out of the shop. He has ordered a newer "upgraded" rotary steer. Does anyone have any schematics on how this steering system works and can help a brotha out ??


Montauk, where ya at bruh ?

Montauk17 08-23-2011 12:41 PM

Did yall try taking the steering tube out of the swivel pin bracket on the engine? Alot of times it will get caked up with grease and harden. Some times you can get lucky and take cable out and run a big enough drill bit and/or wire brush inside the swivel pin bracket and put the cable back in with plenty of pb blaster or wd-40. DO NOT use grease it will cause more harm than good.

Jordan 08-23-2011 12:44 PM

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attached a pic of what im trying to talk about

Jordan 08-23-2011 12:45 PM

the piece with a hole in it is stuck in the sleeve..... the rod slides when i pull out and push in, the steering wheel turns freely.

Montauk17 08-23-2011 12:49 PM

The steering wheel should not turn freely unless you disconneted the tie bar.

Montauk17 08-23-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 311280)
attached a pic of what im trying to talk about


BTW yamaha does not make steering cables,the cable in the pic is a shift/throttle cable. Give me a ring if you need more help

Montauk17 08-23-2011 01:13 PM

This is what the cable looks like...

http://www.marineengine.com/products...s/3464840C.jpg

Jordan 08-23-2011 01:44 PM

ok, well when i D/C the end with the nut and pull out, the wheel turns, i push it back in, the wheel turns. The end where the hole is at is stuck in the sleeve.

Montauk17 08-23-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 311304)
ok, well when i D/C the end with the nut and pull out, the wheel turns, i push it back in, the wheel turns. The end where the hole is at is stuck in the sleeve.

Spray the hell out of it with pb blaster and let it soak overnight. Sometimes you have to get ugly with it and hit it with a big punch and hammer while someone pulls from the other side.

Kenner18 08-23-2011 01:48 PM

Where is the boat located ?

Jordan 08-23-2011 01:49 PM

DeRidder........

Ryan, i hooked up a ratchet strap to it and to a tree, every time i would ratchet it, it would drag the trailer closer to the tree. We hit it with PB blaster. Do i spray that stuff inside the sleeve ??? That "eye" is wedged in there pretty tight.

Jordan 08-23-2011 01:50 PM

Ryan, does the rod come out ??? When i would pull the rod out of the sleeve, it would stop about 10" or so out of the sleeve.

Montauk17 08-23-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 311310)
DeRidder........

Ryan, i hooked up a ratchet strap to it and to a tree, every time i would ratchet it, it would drag the trailer closer to the tree. We hit it with PB blaster. Do i spray that stuff inside the sleeve ??? That "eye" is wedged in there pretty tight.


LOL would have liked to see the ratchet strap with the tree. Yes spray inside the tube. Don't be scared,use the whole can if you have to. Is the cable in a bind? On some boats I had to take the motor off the transom to get the cable out of a bind so the cable comes out straight.

Jordan 08-23-2011 01:55 PM

not in a bind. The cable and rod slide smoothly. Its the other side (left side as your looking at motor from rear).

It was a hoot to do that, need to bring the come-along over and re-try it. I ended up cutting a 1" gash in the top of my thumb. Look at the bass i was holding in this post---http://www.saltycajun.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22380&highlight=twin... Thats what happened when I let the pressure off the ratchet strap.

Kenner18 08-23-2011 01:55 PM

If you got a new cable ,take a sawzall and cut the old one off so you can work on it easier. Sounds like its time for the punch and hammer.

Montauk17 08-23-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 311318)
not in a bind. The cable and rod slide smoothly. Its the other side (left side as your looking at motor from rear).

It was a hoot to do that, need to bring the come-along over and re-try it. I ended up cutting a 1" gash in the top of my thumb. Look at the bass i was holding in this post---http://www.saltycajun.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22380&highlight=twin... Thats what happened when I let the pressure off the ratchet strap.

Wish you didn't live so far or I would give you a hand. Did yall hit it with a big punch and hammer?

Gerald 08-23-2011 02:06 PM

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Jodan..... is this what the stearing rod looks like? Can you take some picture so we can see what you are doing.

Jordan 08-23-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 311321)
Wish you didn't live so far or I would give you a hand. Did yall hit it with a big punch and hammer?


not yet...... Do i take the rod out of the sleeve ?? If so, how ?? Then stick a punch through the sleeve and knock the other piece out ?? It is all one piece, or did it break inside the sleeve ?? Was thinking about pulling the motor, taking the sleeve out of it and working on it.

Jordan 08-23-2011 02:11 PM

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a better understanding !!

Gerald 08-23-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 311340)
not yet...... Do i take the rod out of the sleeve ?? If so, how ?? Then stick a punch through the sleeve and knock the other piece out ?? It is all one piece, or did it break inside the sleeve ?? Was thinking about pulling the motor, taking the sleeve out of it and working on it.


My rod needed a little help to get it out.

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