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eracjac61 04-25-2012 08:10 AM

abandoned crab traps
 
I am looking for some advice on whether or not it is ok/legal to remove abandoned crab traps that are washed up in the marsh edge on big lake. The spot I like to fish is strewn with a dozen or so washed up pots/ropes/floats etc (storm/hurricane debris?) that I would like to get out of the way. Am I obligated to try to locate the owner if the pot has a nametag on it? Any help would be appreciated. Thx JJ

eracjac61 04-25-2012 03:51 PM

anyone?
 
Some help?

Texas Tiger 04-25-2012 04:18 PM

The way I read the rules, the trap can only be removed by the owner or the owner's agent...haven't seen anything about abandonment

Look at what the state says...

http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/fishing...ional-crabbing

http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/fishing...rcial-crabbing

Lake Chuck Duck 04-25-2012 04:46 PM

Would be best to call the ldwf office and speak with someone about it.

On a side note, those traps are a pain and ugly to look at. There should be an event where a bunch of volunteers run the banks and pick up stuff like that. Like they do at contraband bayou

Duck Butter 04-25-2012 06:50 PM

Not sure the rules but they have crab trap roundups in SE La. They give a notice to the crabbers and any traps not picked up past the date are getting picked up. In one sense the they are 'constant killers' in that the crabs get in there die and then the fish get in there to eat the dead crabs, die, then crabs eat the fish, etc. BUT, the ones that have been there awhile seem to have sediment and mud all around them and vegetation growing out of them. I almost think that you could use them for restoration work as long as you allowed for the crabs/fish to get out. Eventually they would rust out and all you are left with is a patch of vegetation = new land:eek: I don't know probably too easy and simple

eman 04-25-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 424158)
Not sure the rules but they have crab trap roundups in SE La. They give a notice to the crabbers and any traps not picked up past the date are getting picked up. In one sense the they are 'constant killers' in that the crabs get in there die and then the fish get in there to eat the dead crabs, die, then crabs eat the fish, etc. BUT, the ones that have been there awhile seem to have sediment and mud all around them and vegetation growing out of them. I almost think that you could use them for restoration work as long as you allowed for the crabs/fish to get out. Eventually they would rust out and all you are left with is a patch of vegetation = new land:eek: I don't know probably too easy and simple

DING DING DING! Give the man a cigar! that is what is being done w/ the crab traps from the round ups .the flatten them and stack on banks and drive rebar to hold them in place . grass grows up thru them and then silt will catch and form new land.

Gottogo49 04-25-2012 07:31 PM

To my knowledge there has never been a derelict crab trap removal project for Big Lake. Numerous projects for other parts of the state. Hmmm?
No metal crab traps for Calcasieu River north of the Intercostal Waterway, so they can use plastic box traps in Prien and Lake Charles, what's the deal?

Duck Butter 04-25-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 424163)
DING DING DING! Give the man a cigar! that is what is being done w/ the crab traps from the round ups .the flatten them and stack on banks and drive rebar to hold them in place . grass grows up thru them and then silt will catch and form new land.

I get a little wood on the ball every now and again:rotfl:

jchief 04-25-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gottogo49 (Post 424176)
To my knowledge there has never been a derelict crab trap removal project for Big Lake. Numerous projects for other parts of the state. Hmmm?
No metal crab traps for Calcasieu River north of the Intercostal Waterway, so they can use plastic box traps in Prien and Lake Charles, what's the deal?

May be wrong, but I think they had one years back. Definately need one.

Maybe we should approach the LC CCA president about one.

HMMMMM

BossHog 04-25-2012 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gottogo49 (Post 424176)
To my knowledge there has never been a derelict crab trap removal project for Big Lake. Numerous projects for other parts of the state. Hmmm?
No metal crab traps for Calcasieu River north of the Intercostal Waterway, so they can use plastic box traps in Prien and Lake Charles, what's the deal?

CCA doesn't care about biglake

SULPHITE 04-25-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossHog (Post 424262)
CCA doesn't care about biglake

:rolleyes:

Raymond 04-25-2012 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossHog (Post 424262)
CCA doesn't care about biglake

Would you care to elaborate on your statement BH?
Please tell me.

Gerald 04-25-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jchief (Post 424216)
May be wrong, but I think they had one years back. Definately need one.

Maybe we should approach the LC CCA president about one.

HMMMMM

As I remember...... one was scheduled for the Big Lake area about 5 years ago but there was never any advertisement to let the public know about it. Then when the date came, there was some bad weather [I don't remember what] or something and it was postponed and never rescheduled.

swamp snorkler 04-26-2012 05:07 AM

Terrebonne and Lafourche both have removal programs. Commercial & recreational fisherman come together and round them up.


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SULPHITE 04-26-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 424304)
As I remember...... one was scheduled for the Big Lake area about 5 years ago but there was never any advertisement to let the public know about it. Then when the date came, there was some bad weather [I don't remember what] or something and it was postponed and never rescheduled.

thats the problem with alot of cleanup type deal no one shows up. Everyone crys but no one puts up the effort...

Secondly like the post above the fisherman themselves should respect their area they make their living off of....

SULPHITE 04-26-2012 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 424304)
As I remember...... one was scheduled for the Big Lake area about 5 years ago but there was never any advertisement to let the public know about it. Then when the date came, there was some bad weather [I don't remember what] or something and it was postponed and never rescheduled.

one that got cancelled was the christmas tree barrier...one of which Raymond was there...only 2 boats showed up...

Raymond 04-26-2012 10:42 AM

It gets old hearing folks low rent an organization that has done more for fish than anyone else out there. I don't agree with everything CCA does but they carry more water for fish and recreational fishermen than any organization. Remember Gill Nets?, who organized and used their own $$
to defeat the Netters? Guess those reefs built in Big Lake just appeared out of thin air. The new reef that will use recycled cement is going to magically appear the middle of May. Who lobbied the EPA,Corp of Eng,DEQ, La Dept W&F, in order to cut the price of building a reef by half so we can build more reefs using recycled material? Who is working with fortune 500 companies to get them onboard the reef/recycling band wagon? If you only knew how much time goes into what we do maybe it would become clearer. Have you ever fished the Trout Shootout? Next year why don't you Chair the event and find out the amount of work it takes. I will add your name to the list, what is your real name by the way?
It's so easy to throw rocks from behind a screen name, please enlighten me.

Bluechip 04-26-2012 11:47 AM

I agree Raymond, no organization is perfect but I support and appreciate what CCA does for the fishermen in Big Lake and I have not forgot about the small group of people that put their own money together to fight the Gill Nets......with that being said, "Thank You", for your time and efforts.....

jchief 04-26-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 424474)
I agree Raymond, no organization is perfect but I support and appreciate what CCA does for the fishermen in Big Lake and I have not forgot about the small group of people that put their own money together to fight the Gill Nets......with that being said, "Thank You", for your time and efforts.....

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Gottogo49 04-26-2012 01:50 PM

Sorry Raymond, I didn't mean to take a poke at a hornet's nest. LDW&F is the lead on the derelict crap trap removal project. I'll bet if they can schedule one for Calcasieu that we could get some volunteers. It's my understanding that it's not CCA's responsibility, they just help LDW&F.


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