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Jeremycrochet 04-16-2016 08:37 PM

Flipping/punching baits
 
Just trying to see the what everyone's favorite flipping or punching bait is. Im pretty new to punching grass mats and other heavy cover. I've been using speed craws mostly but I know there are other baits that could work just as good or even better.


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sledgehammer 04-16-2016 08:38 PM

Senko


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Crankbait36 04-16-2016 10:32 PM

11/2 ounce jig

coachlp2 04-17-2016 08:27 AM

Zoom Z-Hog and Z-Hog Jr. are my favorites. The Jr can even take a 3/0 flipping hook. I love speed craws for more open areas like laydowns and sparse grass, they don't take the punching abuse as well.

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Montauk17 04-17-2016 09:01 AM

Berkley pit boss

PEACEKEEPER 04-17-2016 09:48 AM

Berkley pit boss, paca punch has some nice new bait. Sweet beavers. Sometimes i dont thimk it's the color but just the comotion the bait makes as it comes through. I get my tungstens from ebay. Kajun boss lures out of centerville, la. I also just started punching and i like it!!!!

Jeremycrochet 04-17-2016 03:22 PM

Anyone ever punch with a d bomb or destroyer?


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coachlp2 04-17-2016 05:55 PM

Both of those Missile Baits are very good, just a little too pricey for me

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C-Bass2mouth 04-18-2016 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremycrochet (Post 792732)
Anyone ever punch with a d bomb or destroyer?


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The D bombs are the bee's knees. I'll down size to a 3/0 flipping hook for them though. The smaller hook holds them better. I've caught a lot of good fish on them this year. Actually just caught a stud on one Friday. I used to really like the sweet beavers, but the D bombs hold the hook a little better. They fall fast and glide well like the beaver but also have some kick to them on the fall. I've flipped them on tungsten from a 1/2oz to 1-1/4oz. Usually on fluoro. I think the fast fall is what gets you bit more than anything. That fluoro allows it to slide over limbs or grass better than braid. So even if your line is over a limb or two your bait will still fall faster than if you had braid that catches on stuff and slows the fall. I've got a lot more bites than other people in the boat using braid. Just my 2 cents

funkyflemmons 04-18-2016 08:58 AM

Beavers

Jeremycrochet 04-18-2016 03:05 PM

Does the color really matter filling grass mats?


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Jeremycrochet 04-18-2016 03:05 PM

Flipping*


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jpd0144 04-18-2016 03:41 PM

I try to keep it pretty simple ...

Loose vegetation or sparse cover - R/I Beaver.

Has a unique glide when pegged. Also when the water is cold/winter everything moves sluggish then and this lures doesn't have crazy loose appendages on the fall flapping everywhere. Looks sluggish like nature around it.

But in tight packed vegetation (hay grass) or thick brush - Zoom Z-hog.

The less lines/ridges/appendages (its slick) the easier the lure will slide in with less weight or head ach. Resulting in higher percentages of a successful penetration through a mat or a pitch to a target and it not fouling on a limb or twig on the first attempt.

Color - If the water is clear watermelon or Cali 420 will do. If its dirty black/blue. If Im questioning my choice ... black/blue seems to always work.

T-Boo 04-18-2016 03:48 PM

Where's the best place to buy tungsten weights? Those suckers are expensive.

Baychamp1 04-18-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 792771)
The D bombs are the bee's knees. I'll down size to a 3/0 flipping hook for them though. The smaller hook holds them better. I've caught a lot of good fish on them this year. Actually just caught a stud on one Friday. I used to really like the sweet beavers, but the D bombs hold the hook a little better. They fall fast and glide well like the beaver but also have some kick to them on the fall. I've flipped them on tungsten from a 1/2oz to 1-1/4oz. Usually on fluoro. I think the fast fall is what gets you bit more than anything. That fluoro allows it to slide over limbs or grass better than braid. So even if your line is over a limb or two your bait will still fall faster than if you had braid that catches on stuff and slows the fall. I've got a lot more bites than other people in the boat using braid. Just my 2 cents

What lb. test & brand of fluorocarbon do you recommend?

jpd0144 04-18-2016 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 792771)
.... Usually on fluoro. That fluoro allows it to slide over limbs or grass better than braid. So even if your line is over a limb or two your bait will still fall faster than if you had braid that catches on stuff and slows the fall. I've got a lot more bites than other people in the boat using braid. Just my 2 cents

X 2 !

Slowly getting away from braid for this. Had good success this year using 20 and 25 flouro at the Bend. Especially on the weekends around the hay grass going behind what seems to be 1,000 boats ...

coachlp2 04-18-2016 04:50 PM

I think heavy fluoro will definitely get more bites versus braid. However, I bought a 300 yd spool of braid 2 years ago and my reels are still spooled up with it, and I don't plan on changing it. Also, I can switch and throw a frog or something else with it. It's just an expense thing for me, but 25 pound fluoro on a dedicated flipping rod is hard to beat.

C-Bass2mouth 04-18-2016 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Baychamp1 (Post 792820)
What lb. test & brand of fluorocarbon do you recommend?

I thought I've been using #25 lb this whole year. I back all my reels with mono or braid and just tie enough main line to not be able to cast it all out. Helps cut back on buying so much expensive fluoro or braid. But I finally needed to re-spool and turns out I've been flipping 20 with zero breaks with countless fish being hung in bushes and having to dig them out. I re-tie a lot though. I'll def go up to #25 next spool I buy though just in case. I've been using red label seaguar but it's like about like flipping with a slinky. Spend some more money and get a quality fluoro that's made for flipping. If you back your reel it will last twice as long also.

C-Bass2mouth 04-18-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by coachlp2 (Post 792824)
I think heavy fluoro will definitely get more bites versus braid. However, I bought a 300 yd spool of braid 2 years ago and my reels are still spooled up with it, and I don't plan on changing it. Also, I can switch and throw a frog or something else with it. It's just an expense thing for me, but 25 pound fluoro on a dedicated flipping rod is hard to beat.

I hear ya. Instead of re-spooling your braid reels after it starts to flatten out and fade, try tying it to something (in your yard or parking lot or whatever) and walking away from it to un-spool it. After you un-spool it walk back to where you tied it to something and spool it from that end. Boom, new line.

Montauk17 04-19-2016 08:04 AM

I use 40-50 pound stren braid with a 4' leader of 20 pound red label for flippin wood.Use a alberto knot for the knot. Can't stand the coil of heavy straight floro on a reel. Been using this setup the last 3 years never had an issue. When punching grass I use 70 pound daiwa samari braid straight. It's expensive but I only spool about 40 yards on a reel.


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