Weirs

["W"]

Smalls the head gate guy is the biggest duck hunter behind the weirs


I can't wait till July 9th to hear them lie when I bust there aZZ about duck hunting

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by "W"

Smalls the head gate guy is the biggest duck hunter behind the weirs


I can't wait till July 9th to hear them lie when I bust there aZZ about duck hunting

I asked you for his name months ago, and you never gave it to me.

Why is that?

If you could actually prove me wrong, I would admit it. But you always skirt my questions. Why is that?

[Duck Butter]

10 pages or bust folks

["W"]

Originally Posted by Smalls

I asked you for his name months ago, and you never gave it to me.

Why is that?

If you could actually prove me wrong, I would admit it. But you always skirt my questions. Why is that?

I did give it to you.... Don't remember now but look back I posted it


Again "WE" "Us" locals know it's all about duck hunting , you forget that 90% of the full time guides also guide duck hunting

We know !!! You can act like it's to save the marsh but that's like saying Obama is trying to save healthcare

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by "W"

I did give it to you.... Don't remember now but look back I posted it


Again "WE" "Us" locals know it's all about duck hunting , you forget that 90% of the full time guides also guide duck hunting

We know !!! You can act like it's to save the marsh but that's like saying Obama is trying to save healthcare

Nah, pretty sure you never did. Go look it up.

And if you did, why don't you post it back up? Shouldn't be a big issue for you.

In case you don't remember, I am from Lake Charles. I care just as much about that area as you do. Maybe more, considering I actually dedicated the first 2 1/2 years of my career to its conservation.

Contrary to what you believe, Waltrip, You aren't the only one that knows a lot of people that care about the resources.

[DannyI]

I will only make one comment on all this, "only" scientific facts should be used to control the weirs. At this point, only MG has offered any "facts", the rest, well each side has their beliefs. The meeting will be interesting "if" truth is discussed and not turn into a shouting arguing match. But the only thing I can say, if anyone doesn't believe that "money" controls all things in this state, and the world, you got your head in a hole.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by DannyI

I will only make one comment on all this, "only" scientific facts should be used to control the weirs. At this point, only MG has offered any "facts", the rest, well each side has their beliefs. The meeting will be interesting "if" truth is discussed and not turn into a shouting arguing match. But the only thing I can say, if anyone doesn't believe that "money" controls all things in this state, and the world, you got your head in a hole.

Dude, I've thrown up so many facts on these weirs and that marsh, it ain't even funny. This conversation has been going on for a LONG, LONG, LONG time. I've even offered some of the reports I have on research that has been done on the Cameron-Creole. I quit posting the same thing over and over again because people don't care to know anything scientific unless it supports their side.

Here's your link Waltrip. Find where you posted the name.

Inshore Saltwater Fishing Discussion: Weirs Closed - SaltyCajun.com

Inshore Saltwater Fishing Discussion: Weirs Closed - SaltyCajun.com

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Dude, I've thrown up so many facts on these weirs and that marsh, it ain't even funny. This conversation has been going on for a LONG, LONG, LONG time. I've even offered some of the reports I have on research that has been done on the Cameron-Creole. I quit posting the same thing over and over again because people don't care to know anything scientific unless it supports their side.

Here's your link Waltrip. Find where you posted the name.

Inshore Saltwater Fishing Discussion: Weirs Closed - SaltyCajun.com

You've thrown up facts, but bottom line is, operation of the wiers is contracted out. Explain why they are open with water pouring into the marsh, and closed when it rains it's a** off. Whoever is operating them is not going by your facts as to when it should be opened and closed.

I don't want to see land lost, but I also don't want to see a huge estuary choked off of a major food source.

Come on man, do you believe everything the government tells you? This day and age, it's about money and politics. I know you are smart enough to understand that.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Dude, I've thrown up so many facts on these weirs and that marsh, it ain't even funny. This conversation has been going on for a LONG, LONG, LONG time. I've even offered some of the reports I have on research that has been done on the Cameron-Creole. I quit posting the same thing over and over again because people don't care to know anything scientific unless it supports their side.

Here's your link Waltrip. Find where you posted the name.

Inshore Saltwater Fishing Discussion: Weirs Closed - SaltyCajun.com

Thanks for the link. There was a lot of good discussion and information posted in that thread. Also note that back in April, a number of folks thought there was something really wrong because their fish catches were down. Others suggested the fish might just be in an unusual pattern and not being caught because of the cooler spring and changed foraging habits.

Now that it's late June, "W" and other guides have been reporting catching limits of specks just about every day, and often by 9:00 AM. Those fish being caught in June were in or near the estuary back in April, they just were not being caught then because even the experienced Big Lake anglers did not know where they were.

Specks are an unpredictable fish and Big Lake is an unpredictable lake. A few months of bad fishing does not mean the sky is falling, it just means the fish are doing something unexpected.

[homerun]

Ive been hunting behind weirs for 30 years. The better blinds in marsh tend to be closer to the weirs where it is saltier. I do not believe weirs are for duck hunting.

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by "W"

I did give it to you.... Don't remember now but look back I posted it


Again "WE" "Us" locals know it's all about duck hunting , you forget that 90% of the full time guides also guide duck hunting

We know !!! You can act like it's to save the marsh but that's like saying Obama is trying to save healthcare

He gave it to you. Go back and look.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

He gave it to you. Go back and look.

Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

I posted his name on a thread , I will find who he is again don't worry .


Also tell me why they opened the weirs Mermoral weekend for 72 hrs when the lake salinity was high and marsh was high and 3-4 ft lower than the lake

The lake flowed into the marsh all of those days so why did they open it??







I will tell you why! they are getting heat over the way it's mismanaged and more and more are putting pressure on them about trying to manage the duck grass for duck hunters !!


I can't wait for them to straight aZZ lie to the public July. 9th

[slickfish]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

This is also the same guy that says you can catch redfish using a car battery.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by slickfish

This is also the same guy that says you can catch redfish using a car battery.

You can't? I thought everybody knew how to do that.

["W"]

Originally Posted by slickfish

This is also the same guy that says you can catch redfish using a car battery.

^^^ this is from the same guy who follows me around on an internet form and never has made one contributed post on here but has 200+ replays about me

Lmao

Duck ... Quack Quack Quack all I do us make you quack

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

Man i'm not going back to look, but 100%, no doubt, he posted the guys name about 2 months ago in a thread out there somewhere.

Again, no one is saying that weirs run properly is a bad thing, we're just saying that they are not being managed correctly right now.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

Man i'm not going back to look, but 100%, no doubt, he posted the guys name about 2 months ago in a thread out there somewhere.

Again, no one is saying that weirs run properly is a bad thing, we're just saying that they are not being managed correctly right now.

I posted the thread that this "guy" was discussed in, and no, it was not posted. I asked him for the name, and he ignored me.

And I'm pretty sure the argument made by W for months has been the weirs should be left open all the time. So yes, the argument has been made that operating (or not operating) the weirs properly IS a good thing.

The primary purpose of the weirs is not, and never has been fisheries management.

["W"]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

Man i'm not going back to look, but 100%, no doubt, he posted the guys name about 2 months ago in a thread out there somewhere.

Again, no one is saying that weirs run properly is a bad thing, we're just saying that they are not being managed correctly right now.

I'm almost 100% also that I posted his name on a thread , I can't remember what it was but I posted it somewhere


smells worked as an intern for one year and now is a marsh expert on duck grass

But yet lots of people who spent there whole life in these areas are all wrong and don't know nothing according to smalls vertict

[Evans]

Originally Posted by "W"

Smalls the head gate guy is the biggest duck hunter behind the weirs


I can't wait till July 9th to hear them lie when I bust there aZZ about duck hunting

I'll be there to hear what they got to say!