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Old 06-17-2011, 06:53 AM
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#1...False
#2...True
#3...True But most are in early with there limits.
#4...I thought you started saltwater fishing like 3 years ago.

There is no reason for keeping 25 fish per person. But even after 25 fish limits, gill nets and strike nets there are still plenty of fish in the lake.
Dude Im sure I was on Big Lake before you were ever introduced to saltwater fishing.......

and No...I will say 65% of guides could not bag a 100 trout daily...it may be higher... Plenty of days at Hebert I saw boats come in with only 50 or 75 trout.....and your buddys guide service was one of them.......

Select few will go out and boat 100 fish a day on the lake...and yes there are days when everyone can catch a 100 but less than not....

and if you took live shrimp fishing out of the subject....trout would blossom to record numbers
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Old 06-17-2011, 06:55 AM
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and if you took live shrimp fishing out of the subject....trout would blossom to record numbers

And trout 5lbs and over would decline in record numbers! Or that is my theory/opinion.
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:12 AM
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And trout 5lbs and over would decline in record numbers! Or that is my theory/opinion.
Its a joke... But Im saying most can not catch trout on plastic and live shrimp is their only savior...

but again......you have to know how to fish and what areas to fish and where to fish at times of the year.

I limit out 85% of the times i fish......last year I keep in my boat 3,045 trout. I tagged and released over 200 along with Chris who tagged about 200 of his tags

Most of the time when I keep fish it goes to who is with me

I fished 110 days in 2010 with adv trip of 27.2 trout per trip... ( I fish with 3 guys about 40% of the time) This does not count all trout let go or undersize just what went in the box for the day.

My data book goes back to 2002 when i started keeping a log,,,,,,, biggest year I had was 2006 after Rita...which I believe I keep around 3900 trout

My least year was 2005 867 but we had Rita and I was in a car accident which keep me off the water half a year....

Now from 2001 to 2005 I did not work 7 n 7 I worked 5-3 and 4-3 for all these years.......which meant lot less time on the water..but I could keep a bigger limit

I also show over and over that trout come back to the same spots at the same time of the year over and over...But It also shows that the numbers in those areas have declined in some and increased in others...

Once my data book is over 20 years old...Im going to get with someone and It might be Jody with LSU and let him use the data for his benefit.

I keep all details like tide, moon, wind, salinity, water temp, and locations
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:52 AM
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Its a joke... But Im saying most can not catch trout on plastic and live shrimp is their only savior...

but again......you have to know how to fish and what areas to fish and where to fish at times of the year.

I limit out 85% of the times i fish......last year I keep in my boat 3,045 trout. I tagged and released over 200 along with Chris who tagged about 200 of his tags

Most of the time when I keep fish it goes to who is with me

I fished 110 days in 2010 with adv trip of 27.2 trout per trip... ( I fish with 3 guys about 40% of the time) This does not count all trout let go or undersize just what went in the box for the day.

My data book goes back to 2002 when i started keeping a log,,,,,,, biggest year I had was 2006 after Rita...which I believe I keep around 3900 trout

My least year was 2005 867 but we had Rita and I was in a car accident which keep me off the water half a year....

Now from 2001 to 2005 I did not work 7 n 7 I worked 5-3 and 4-3 for all these years.......which meant lot less time on the water..but I could keep a bigger limit

I also show over and over that trout come back to the same spots at the same time of the year over and over...But It also shows that the numbers in those areas have declined in some and increased in others...

Once my data book is over 20 years old...Im going to get with someone and It might be Jody with LSU and let him use the data for his benefit.

I keep all details like tide, moon, wind, salinity, water temp, and locations

Nice bunch of data. Prolly make an interesting read. I don't catch near as many trout as that but I don't try either. I love the top water bite so much that I pass over fish that I know I could catch on plastics. If I catch 5-10 fish on topwater in a day, I am perfectly happy. If I want a pile of fish to eat, I go catch my flounder. Fella drifted near me one day catching fish on every cast on live shrimp. He yelled at me to put da shrimp on. I said I didn't have any but was content with walking the dog. LOL, he shook his head like I was some kinda fool for goin into the lake with no shrimp.
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Old 06-17-2011, 09:16 AM
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Dude Im sure I was on Big Lake before you were ever introduced to saltwater fishing.......

and No...I will say 65% of guides could not bag a 100 trout daily...it may be higher... Plenty of days at Hebert I saw boats come in with only 50 or 75 trout.....and your buddys guide service was one of them.......

Select few will go out and boat 100 fish a day on the lake...and yes there are days when everyone can catch a 100 but less than not....

and if you took live shrimp fishing out of the subject....trout would blossom to record numbers
Gunna have to agree with W on this I bet the number is higher than 65% Yes guides do catch fish consistently but no way could they catch 100 per day
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Old 06-17-2011, 09:27 AM
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Gunna have to agree with W on this I bet the number is higher than 65% Yes guides do catch fish consistently but no way could they catch 100 per day
Hell last week they had guides not getting there limit of 45 trout..... I had 60 Sat and most guides fell short of that 60 mark...some had it and others did not come close..

From what I saw it was about 40-50 trout with 4 guys in a boat

There is 2 guides I know who come in daily with a limit of trout..and one has a 30 fish guarantee or you dont pay....(30fish is Reds and Trout)

I know this year I smoked several guide boats and they fished till 2pm and I was done at 9am...but they have done the same to me also....(I also dont have people to call me and let me know where the fish are)

But if you take a week of fishing by each guide you will find the higher number is none limits
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:09 AM
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Hell last week they had guides not getting there limit of 45 trout..... I had 60 Sat and most guides fell short of that 60 mark...some had it and others did not come close..

From what I saw it was about 40-50 trout with 4 guys in a boat

There is 2 guides I know who come in daily with a limit of trout..and one has a 30 fish guarantee or you dont pay....(30fish is Reds and Trout)

I know this year I smoked several guide boats and they fished till 2pm and I was done at 9am...but they have done the same to me also....(I also dont have people to call me and let me know where the fish are)

But if you take a week of fishing by each guide you will find the higher number is none limits
didnt mean to say no way they catch 100 I can remember before the limit change and catching 100 but as far as catching that everyday dont believe it could happen considering weather and such Over 200 days on the water I avg 35-40 fish a day

I for sure aint argueing your point if anything I got your back here
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:19 AM
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Just gonna throw it out there, but I would imagine the '2 Cool Fishing' crowd is probably getting a kick out of reading the stuff that is debated over here also

'W' is jealous he is not a guide is what I get out of all this
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:33 AM
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Just gonna throw it out there, but I would imagine the '2 Cool Fishing' crowd is probably getting a kick out of reading the stuff that is debated over here also

'W' is jealous he is not a guide is what I get out of all this
HA.... I took the online part of the test and all I have to do is go the BR and do Coast Guard but I can make some quick money on days off but then I have no patience's to fish people I dont know and have to battle tangle lines and so forth....

I rather go with buddy's and split the gas...... My wife wants me to get it and i could make $1500-$2000 a week on my days off....But then i would be like some of the other guides who make a living and hate to fish...

I feel for the guys who spend all year on the water....Its a damn hard job to keep fishing coming day in and day out and still enjoy it....

By hunting season those boys are ready to leave that boat behind.....

I just dont want to get that away...
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:35 AM
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HA.... I took the online part of the test and all I have to do is go the BR and do Coast Guard but I can make some quick money on days off but then I have no patience's to fish people I dont know and have to battle tangle lines and so forth....

I rather go with buddy's and split the gas...... My wife wants me to get it and i could make $1500-$2000 a week on my days off....But then i would be like some of the other guides who make a living and hate to fish...

I feel for the guys who spend all year on the water....Its a damn hard job to keep fishing coming day in and day out and still enjoy it....

By hunting season those boys are ready to leave that boat behind.....

I just dont want to get that away...
That is exactly why I am a retired duck and goose guide. When it becomes your job and baby sitting rich idiots that don't tip, you get sick of it real soon!! I am not cut out to be a guide!
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:40 AM
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HA.... I took the online part of the test and all I have to do is go the BR and do Coast Guard but I can make some quick money on days off but then I have no patience's to fish people I dont know and have to battle tangle lines and so forth....

I rather go with buddy's and split the gas...... My wife wants me to get it and i could make $1500-$2000 a week on my days off....But then i would be like some of the other guides who make a living and hate to fish...

I feel for the guys who spend all year on the water....Its a damn hard job to keep fishing coming day in and day out and still enjoy it....

By hunting season those boys are ready to leave that boat behind.....

I just dont want to get that away...
Guiding is exactly that, some days it is great and everything goes right, but then there are those days that the big cold front comes thru fish got the lockjaw and if it was your choice, you would not fish, BUT those clients are coming down regardless and are paying you to fish. Those are the days that would stick in my mind = choppy, muddy water, north wind blowing, baiting peoples hooks, untangling, no sir not for me. 'Should have been here yesterday' just doesn't cut it! I enjoy fishing too much to do it for a living, kudos to those who guide though
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HA.... I took the online part of the test and all I have to do is go the BR and do Coast Guard but I can make some quick money on days off but then I have no patience's to fish people I dont know and have to battle tangle lines and so forth....

I rather go with buddy's and split the gas...... My wife wants me to get it and i could make $1500-$2000 a week on my days off....But then i would be like some of the other guides who make a living and hate to fish...

I feel for the guys who spend all year on the water....Its a damn hard job to keep fishing coming day in and day out and still enjoy it....

By hunting season those boys are ready to leave that boat behind.....

I just dont want to get that away...
I could understand that
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Hell last week they had guides not getting there limit of 45 trout..... I had 60 Sat and most guides fell short of that 60 mark...some had it and others did not come close..

From what I saw it was about 40-50 trout with 4 guys in a boat

There is 2 guides I know who come in daily with a limit of trout..and one has a 30 fish guarantee or you dont pay....(30fish is Reds and Trout)

I know this year I smoked several guide boats and they fished till 2pm and I was done at 9am...but they have done the same to me also....(I also dont have people to call me and let me know where the fish are)

But if you take a week of fishing by each guide you will find the higher number is none limits

the problem isn't if they don't catch their limit, it's the laws that they push to protect "their" fisheries and "their" lake , they don't care about anything except their livelihoods and whatever they can do to prevent other people from catching "their" fish.....I have seen this first hand in 2 states that I've lived in and they succeeded in imposing ridiculous limits..it's only a matter of time before it happens here in La. , so be careful when you advocate for something that restricts other people's god givin rights, it just might come back to bite you in the butt.
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