Navitable water ways

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ckinchen

I think the answer is yes, he would.

Wrong, polygraph will pacifically ask wherefish was caught. Rules state public body of water so hypothetical angler would be arrested for fraud, a felony in Louisiana .

[Montauk17]

Is the salt ditch going black lake considered "private"?

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Montauk17

Is the salt ditch going black lake considered "private"?

If it is part of Big Lake then yes it is private "W" owns the whole lake, he is just letting people fish his lake today

[evis102]

Originally Posted by Montauk17

Is the salt ditch going black lake considered "private"?

Years ago there was a push from land owners to make the Saltditch private but (and I may be off on this) the coast guard blocked it.

[huntin fool]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

I agree with this, but also see the argument from the 'other side' as well. SOME (not all) of this is due to frivolous lawsuits of people getting hurt on someones' property and they are just having to take measures to extreme. Others are still clearly in the wrong and want to have their own private fishing hole. We are in a world where everyone wants to sue and get something for nothing, and it is what it is.

Fool, that was by no means an attack, but you have to see it from both sides. You were 9 isn't going to hold up when it comes to a trespassing ticket, much like the guy who didn't know he was in a private canal. Mistakes happen

No harm takin bro. I didn't know it was private, I dont go back. I'm just stating the my canal is non navigable along with the rest of the culverts on the calcasieu.

[weedeater]

Originally Posted by huntin fool

No harm takin bro. I didn't know it was private, I dont go back. I'm just stating the my canal is non navigable along with the rest of the culverts on the calcasieu.

I thnk the biggest problem yall (the people on your road) have is people fishin from the road on the marsh side, aint that the case there and not boats

[huntin fool]

Originally Posted by weedeater

I thnk the biggest problem yall (the people on your road) have is people fishin from the road on the marsh side, aint that the case there and not boats

I don't have too much of a problem with people at my set. The last 2 have problems. Jim has to fight em a the time

[huntin fool]

I don't own the culverts. The parish owns them. Both myself and neighbor split land on both sides of OUR CANAL.

[boatdriver]

Originally Posted by evis102

Yet some guides have no problem tieing up to our dock in West Cove or going down our private canal to fish the cuts. Cajun Phil even shot a tv show in there without our permission. But in 30 years we have never called the law and the only time we ask people to get off the dock is so we can fish.

And your dock is where in the cove???

[fishinpox]

Originally Posted by boatdriver

And your dock is where in the cove???

Over by that reef you almost started crying about when u saw we beat u there this morning! Lmao

[evis102]

Originally Posted by boatdriver

And your dock is where in the cove???

On the canal in the southwest corner. We have had the land on both sides of that canal leased for the last 30 years. We even had a camp there but it's been gone for awhile. The older members of the family drive the oilfield roads and 4 wheeler down to the dock. By law we could turn in every boat that goes past the mouth of the canal without permission. Also we could put a gate across the mouth of the canal. But we see that as being rather silly and as long as people make room when we showup to fish we don't worry about it.

[Marshrat]

Originally Posted by Capt.B

If you don't know don't go!! Cameron parish is really funny bout this...they not gonna play wit cha.

You are right about Cameron parish. I work in Miami Corp marsh and they have charges against several people right now for going into the canals without the Miami permit and/or motor size too big.



Warren

[boatdriver]

Originally Posted by fishinpox

Over by that reef you almost started crying about when u saw we beat u there this morning! Lmao

Well it must be nice to be in the same boat in which the owner claims that he "bought" some GPS points from someone else!!! It makes fishing a whole lot easier to have that advantage. And it still didn't help y'all even place. Yeah, now I am laughing! It's ok, I caught 56 fish today. I have PLENTY of my own spots to fish that I didn't have to buy from someone! So, one reef won't hurt me, trust me.

[boatdriver]

Originally Posted by evis102

On the canal in the southwest corner. We have had the land on both sides of that canal leased for the last 30 years. We even had a camp there but it's been gone for awhile. The older members of the family drive the oilfield roads and 4 wheeler down to the dock. By law we could turn in every boat that goes past the mouth of the canal without permission. Also we could put a gate across the mouth of the canal. But we see that as being rather silly and as long as people make room when we showup to fish we don't worry about it.

Didn't know that was ya'lls property. I thought it was Apache.

[Marshrat]

Originally Posted by huntin fool

The canal was dugout when they logged the canal. If you say mine isn't private, go down into the 4th culvert of mistreda's.

If this canal was dug for drainage by a public entity it makes it public. There is a canal that has the land owners that border it claim it private, it has even been to court and the land owners have lost. The reason being is the parish drainage board paid to have the canal dug also after it was dug, LDWF paid to put in a launch. A lot has to do with different variables.

Another body of water that was once private which not many people know is White Lake, in Vermilion parish. The lake was landlocked before the old Intracoastal was dug and the oilfield came in and drilled.

Also from schools I have been to for work, the government defines navigable waters as any water that flows to a natural body of water. The example that was given is this; "the road ditch, that you keep up, if it drains to a natural lake, river, or stream is indeed navigable if it can float a toothpick at least one time in a 365 day period".


Warren

[evis102]

Originally Posted by boatdriver

Didn't know that was ya'lls property. I thought it was Apache.

That's who we lease from. Bad thing is they have no more wells that far down so they do no road upkeep. Another hurricane and the road we be gone. But that may make it better for fishing since it will open all the marsh to the east to a greater influx of tide. When they installed the water control for Mud Lake it made a big difference in the amount of fish and shrimp coming out of that canal.

[Marshrat]

Follow this link and you can pretty much see what is private and what is not. On the left click on state lands, then state claimed water bodies. After that click on legend and it will give you the guide to see what is private and public.


http://199.188.2.155/gis/statelands/viewer.htm



Warren

[all star rod]

Originally Posted by boatdriver

Well it must be nice to be in the same boat in which the owner claims that he "bought" some GPS points from someone else!!! It makes fishing a whole lot easier to have that advantage. And it still didn't help y'all even place. Yeah, now I am laughing! It's ok, I caught 56 fish today. I have PLENTY of my own spots to fish that I didn't have to buy from someone! So, one reef won't hurt me, trust me.

Man not only does he give someone baits, but he buys worn out fishing locations to.....

[huntin fool]

Originally Posted by Marshrat

If this canal was dug for drainage by a public entity it makes it public. There is a canal that has the land owners that border it claim it private, it has even been to court and the land owners have lost. The reason being is the parish drainage board paid to have the canal dug also after it was dug, LDWF paid to put in a launch. A lot has to do with different variables.

Another body of water that was once private which not many people know is White Lake, in Vermilion parish. The lake was landlocked before the old Intracoastal was dug and the oilfield came in and drilled.

Also from schools I have been to for work, the government defines navigable waters as any water that flows to a natural body of water. The example that was given is this; "the road ditch, that you keep up, if it drains to a natural lake, river, or stream is indeed navigable if it can float a toothpick at least one time in a 365 day period".


Warren

We were told it was not navigable due to the depth and due to who dug it.. I also searched the law awhile back. I'm posting on phone.

However, not to argue, but the drainage into a public water is not true. As the Little Burns Drains through this canal, and every part of the little burns are private, hints where I got busted when I was 9

[evis102]

Originally Posted by Marshrat

Follow this link and you can pretty much see what is private and what is not. On the left click on state lands, then state claimed water bodies. After that click on legend and it will give you the guide to see what is private and public.


http://199.188.2.155/gis/statelands/viewer.htm



Warren

That is one sweet link