Not that big of a deal... But

[booyagasha]

Originally Posted by PaulMyers

But this is exactly why we are losing our rights. If we don't make a stand, who will? Not our government, that's for sure!


EVO

Originally Posted by PaulMyers

Wouldn't you search the bus before you searched the passengers? I dought they searched them on the bus. Line them up outside the bus then search it. If its not found on the bus then follow the school system's procedures.

Not have the LEO do it for you. I'm all for cops and have many friends that are cops but there is a procedure in place for the school system but it sounds like it was not followed. If a LEO is going to pat down my 8 year old I damn sure want to be there.

EVO

THIS......
if a parent/guardian has to be present when interrogating/questioning a minor, should be the same for frisking ----with probable cause.

[booyagasha]

Originally Posted by evis102

[B]

I could not agree more.The Government has used a few statistically insignificant events to strip away our rights.

true, Patriot Act comes to mind, a bill/law passed to fight terrorism/terrorist can and has been used against fellow citizens.

[bjhooper82]

So in other words some of you are saying the only reason the pat down was wrong is because the driver simply lost the phone? What would you be saying if they found the phone on one of the kids???

[huntin fool]

I do have a picture of a bus driving texting and driving when we went on a school trip.

[evis102]

Originally Posted by southern151

Eman is dead on with this. If a kid grabbed it and saw a cop standing out there waiting to get to the bottom of the situation, yeah, he's gonna toss it.

As far as being excess or as Evis says, more of our liberties being taken away by dogs and drug testing, tell that to the parents of Columbine. Tell that to a parent whose kid died of heart failure or infection due to bad steroids because he was under pressure to be a superior athlete.

Growing up, I was under the impression that kids didn't have rights. When they got rights was shortly after parents quit doing their job as parents.

In short, don't blame schools or law enforcement for actions like this. Blame parents who have created environments where the possibility of theft is likely. If theft wasn't a real possibility, this would not have happened.

As bad and cold as it is to say Columbine was a statistically insignificant event. People have to look at the big picture, by chrushing our rights over a single event we give that event way more significance than it should ever have. Overreaction to a single event is part of the reason this country is in such poor shape. And yes I'm talking about 9/11.

[jusatch]

I don't like the pat-down, but why didn't the bus driver ask the LEO to call the phone to see if it would ring? All the kids that go to school with my kids have their own phones, even at 11, so the bus driver could have probably borrowed one from a student.

[weedeater]

Where is our SaltyCajun lawman when we need him....... IronMan come on what's your take on this situation

[CajunSaint]

[QUOTE=bjhooper82;320268]So in other words some of you are saying the only reason the pat down was wrong is because the driver simply lost the phone? What would you be saying if they found the phone on one of the kids???

They found the phone on the floor of the bus. Wouldn't you think the bus driver should have looked before?

[PaulMyers]

[quote=CajunSaint;320518]

Originally Posted by bjhooper82

So in other words some of you are saying the only reason the pat down was wrong is because the driver simply lost the phone? What would you be saying if they found the phone on one of the kids???

They found the phone on the floor of the bus. Wouldn't you think the bus driver should have looked before?

Ding Ding Ding, We have a winner!!!

EVO

[iron man]

Originally Posted by weedeater

Where is our SaltyCajun lawman when we need him....... IronMan come on what's your take on this situation

Lol


A short story will do...

When I was a senior, we had an altercation between a couple of us students. A kid in my class (Logan) logged onto facebook from the teacher's computer (big no no at ACHS) and didn't log off. My very good buddy James went on Logan's facebook and posted a joke, we all got a laugh except for Logan (big hippie type kid who thinks military is stupid and finds a way to blame everything on the government, and smokes alot of weed, and he's "always right"). Well, we got into a worded arguement in class the next day and when I offered my input, which was, "you shouldn't have been on facebook in the first place", things got a little more heated and it nearly came to blows in RELIGION after I was told, "why don't you stop sucking his ****?". And during lunch, a punch was thrown towards me by Logan, and he found his face in my Lasagna. Well, Logan found his way into saying that me and James were threatening him and told our principal that we had our guns in our trucks and we were gonna shoot up the school (which had happened already during our sophomore year by some Dville crack dealer). Which was stupid because I or James would never bring a gun on school grounds or do anything to waste $24K that our parents paid. The APSO was called and they searched our trucks in the parking lot before our parents were called during our last hour. Upon reaching the school about an hour and a half later, both sets of our parents were pissed. But, what we were told was they "had probable cause on school property, and schools have the right to search and siezure." I had no problem with it mostly because I had nothing to hide.


But as it turns out, I do have an opinion, if your kid had nothing to hide and was innocent, whats the problem?

[PaulMyers]

That's the short version?

But like you said, "probable cause" of which there was none on this instance.

EVO

[iron man]

Originally Posted by PaulMyers

That's the short version?

But like you said, "probable cause" of which there was none on this instance.

EVO

Lol. Yes actually that was. The whole episode was started a few days before by other events and that one led to the eventual blow up.

[mcjaredsandwich]

Originally Posted by iron man

Lol


A short story will do...

When I was a senior, we had an altercation between a couple of us students. A kid in my class (Logan) logged onto facebook from the teacher's computer (big no no at ACHS) and didn't log off. My very good buddy James went on Logan's facebook and posted a joke, we all got a laugh except for Logan (big hippie type kid who thinks military is stupid and finds a way to blame everything on the government, and smokes alot of weed, and he's "always right"). Well, we got into a worded arguement in class the next day and when I offered my input, which was, "you shouldn't have been on facebook in the first place", things got a little more heated and it nearly came to blows in RELIGION after I was told, "why don't you stop sucking his ****?". And during lunch, a punch was thrown towards me by Logan, and he found his face in my Lasagna. Well, Logan found his way into saying that me and James were threatening him and told our principal that we had our guns in our trucks and we were gonna shoot up the school (which had happened already during our sophomore year by some Dville crack dealer). Which was stupid because I or James would never bring a gun on school grounds or do anything to waste $24K that our parents paid. The APSO was called and they searched our trucks in the parking lot before our parents were called during our last hour. Upon reaching the school about an hour and a half later, both sets of our parents were pissed. But, what we were told was they "had probable cause on school property, and schools have the right to search and siezure." I had no problem with it mostly because I had nothing to hide.


But as it turns out, I do have an opinion, if your kid had nothing to hide and was innocent, whats the problem?

Grab some poppcorn....story time with Iron man....turn cell phones to silent or vibrate

[weedeater]

sorry, its just been real quite around here.

[iron man]

Originally Posted by weedeater

sorry, its just been real quite around here.

I know, I've been in Alabama for a few days and will likely be flying out with my dad for Iowa in the next few days.