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![]() If you can produce a trail cam pic of a black panther in Louisiana, then there is no argument, I bet all my salty cash you can't though some people claim to see pink dolphins, so ![]() |
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I got this one earlier this season...
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I have never seen a black panther or a cougar in the wild, but i still don't rule out the possibility of a black panther being out there.
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I think they got em. Actually I never realized that it was more myth than fact until I read this today. I have always heard stories of them and accepted a long time ago that they exist in Louisiana.
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"Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther party"
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Where's your deer lease, Mozambique?
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There also was one that was in a neighborhood in bossier city a few years ago that wildlife agents and bossier police responded to. As the wildlife agent tried to shoot it with a tranquilizer it ran down the tree it was in and the police officer shot and killed it.
http://easterncougar.org/CougarNews/?p=175 |
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Black panthers don't exist. Black jaguars and leopards, yes. No one has ever seen a true black panther in our lifetime. Bigfoot killed them all.
See Wikipedia below. There are no authenticated cases of truly melanistic cougars (pumas). Melanistic cougars have never been photographed or shot in the wild and none has ever been bred. There is wide consensus among breeders and biologists that the animal does not exist. Black cougars have been reported in Kentucky and in the Carolinas. There have also been reports of glossy black cougars from Kansas, Texas and eastern Nebraska.[citation needed] These have come to be known as the "North American black panther". Sightings are currently attributed to errors in species identification by non-experts, and by the memetic exaggeration of size. Black panthers in the American Southeast feature prominently in Choctaw folklore where, along with the owl, they are often thought to symbolize Death. In his Histoire Naturelle (1749), Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon, wrote of the "Black Cougar":[7] "M. de la Borde, King’s physician at Cayenne, informs me, that in the [South American] Continent there are three species of rapacious animals; that the first is the jaguar, which is called the tiger; that the second is the couguar [sic], called the red tiger, on account of the uniform redness of his hair; that the jaguar is of the size of a large bull-dog, and weighs about 200 pounds [90*kg]; that the cougar is smaller, less dangerous, and not so frequent in the neighbourhood of Cayenne as the jaguar; and that both these animals take six years in acquiring their full growth. He adds, that there is a third species in these countries, called the black tiger, of which we have given a figure under the appellation of the black cougar. The head is pretty similar to that of the common cougar; but the animal has long black hair, and likewise a long tail, with strong whiskers. He weighs not much above forty pounds [18 kg]. The female brings forth her young in the hollows of old trees." This "black cougar" was most likely a margay or ocelot, which are under 40 pounds (18*kg) in weight, live in trees, and do have melanistic phases. Another description of a black cougar[8] was provided by Pennant: Black tiger, or cat, with the head black, sides, fore part of the legs, and the tail, covered with short and very glossy hairs, of a dusky color, sometimes spotted with black, but generally plain: Upper lips white: At the corner of the mouth a black spot: Long hairs above each eye, and long whiskers on the upper lip: Lower lip, throat, belly, and the inside of the legs, whitish, or very pale ash-color: Paws white: Ears pointed: Grows to the size of a heifer of a year old: Has vast strength in its limbs.-- Inhabits Brasil and Guiana: Is a cruel and fierce beast; much dreaded by the Indians; but happily is a scarce species; —Pennant's Synops. of quad., p 180 According to his translator Smellie (1781), the description was taken from two black cougars exhibited in London some years previously. [edit]Reports of black panthers in the United States In Florida, a few melanistic bobcats have been captured; these have also apparently been mistaken for panthers. Ulmer (1941) presents photographs and descriptions of two animals captured in Martin County in 1939 and 1940. In the photographs, they appear black, and one of the hunters called them black. Many "black panther" sightings have also come from Georgia and South Carolina as recent as 2006. Sightings have also been recorded in parts of Texas and Southern Oklahoma, and scattered throughout the eastern U.S. In 2010 a black panther sighting was reported in Madison Mississippi but most people believe it was simply a Labrador Retriever. The Academy specimen, upon close examination, is far from black. The most heavily pigmented portions are the crown and dorsal area. In most lights these areas appear black, but at certain angles the dorsal strip has a decidedly mahogany tint. The mahogany coloring becomes lighter and richer on the sides. The underparts are lightest, being almost ferruginous in color. The chin, throat and cheeks are dark chocolate-brown, but the facial stripes can be seen clearly. The limbs are dark mahogany. In certain lights the typical spot-pattern of the Florida bobcat can be distinctly seen on the side, underparts and limbs. The Bronx Park animal appears darker and the spots are not visible, although the poor light in the quarantine cage may have been the reason.[9] Adult male bobcats are 28–47 inches (71–120 cm) long, with a short, bobbed tail, and are 18–24 inches (46–61 cm) tall at the shoulder. Females are slightly smaller. Florida panthers are 23–32 inches (58–81 cm) at the shoulder and 5–7 feet (1.5–2.1 m) long, including the tail. Bobcats weigh 16–30 pounds (7.3–14 kg) while Florida panthers are 50–150 pounds (23–68 kg). Another possible explanation for black panther sightings is the jaguarundi, a cat very similar genetically to the cougar, which grows to around 30 inches (76*cm) long with an additional 20 inches (51*cm) of tail. Their coat occurs in a reddish-brown phase and a dark grey phase. While their acknowledged natural range ends in southern Texas, a small breeding population was introduced to Florida in the 1940s, and there are rumors of people breeding them as pets there as well. In Central America, they are known as relatively docile pets, as far as non-domesticated animals go. The male jaguarundi's home range can be up to 100 square kilometres (40*sq*mi) while the female's home range can be up to 20 square kilometres (8*sq*mi). It has been suggested that very small populations of jaguarundi, which rarely venture out of deep forests, are responsible for many or most of the supposed black cougar sightings. While they are significantly smaller than a cougar, differently colored, and much lower to the ground (many note a resemblance to the weasel), memory bias could explain many of the sightings in the southeastern U.S. Another possibility would be the black jaguar, which ranged into North America in historical memory. Melanistic jaguars are uncommon in nature and, significantly, jaguars in general were persecuted to near-extinction in the 1960s. Though they do not look exactly like cougars, they have the requisite size. The jaguar has had several (photographically) confirmed, and many unconfirmed, sightings in Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and southwest Texas, but not beyond that region. Calls to Florida wildlife agencies also include house cats (video or photographs make size determination difficult) and river otters (especially at a distance) which are dark brown and can grow to approximately 5 feet in length and move with a gait that people associate with cats. There has recently been a black panther spotted in Dayton, Ohio There have numerous reported black panther sightings in the New Orleans area since late 2010. Recent photographs are still under examination by the Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries. |
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That ended up not being a wild cougar it was a pet. It is on display at the LDWF headquarters in Baton Rouge, awesome mount, but not wild, and not black! |
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Acording to the article above the "black" Jaguar has roamed North America and proven to be as close as west TX. These things are known to roam just a much as other cats or their size. No one is specifially saying that the "Black Panther" is deff. a black couger. After all, its deff. not a panther. Just a term locals use to describe some large "Black Cat" in my opinion.
I have read an article recently of a guy in FL who raises cougers in captivity and had a litter of kittens with a dark grey pigment which looks like it may turn to a black coat as they get older. Just goes to show that a couger very well may be capable of a dark (if not black) color change. Artcle had pictures also. |
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also, bobcats have been captured in the wild. Just another example of somthing that is not supposed to be black but is.
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There are no black panther, cougar, jaguar, or jaguarundi pics in LOUISIANA. There are cougars in Louisiana, there are NO large WILD black cats in Louisiana |
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What is funny is that the odds of seeing a cougar are extremely rare, and to see a black one is more rare than that. I would bet that 1/2 of everyone who claims to see a cougar would also claim that it was black. That is the problem. |
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It's official, it's a kitty cat. I showed it to my wife an cat expert and immediately said kitty cat.
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I'm just saying that it may be rare, but obviously not impossible. To say it is absolutely impossible is kinda ignorant in my opinion. No offense.
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