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Old 12-29-2011, 08:19 PM
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I'll be totally honest with you. I used waterdog and only waterdog. People will tell you it is the biggest joke out there....they haven't seen my dog work. I used the book like a bible and picked up a few tricks from experience and seeing other handlers work. You won't be disappointed if you start early with obedience. Good luck, hope you have enough time to spend with your dog, the more time you spend the more you both with click.
Is he force fetched and will he run 300 yd blinds? Can you no him off a dead bird and pickup a cripple? WD was a scheme nothing more nothing less and written by a fruitcake. Training evolves like technology, evolve with it or get runover.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:12 PM
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Is he force fetched and will he run 300 yd blinds? Can you no him off a dead bird and pickup a cripple? WD was a scheme nothing more nothing less and written by a fruitcake. Training evolves like technology, evolve with it or get runover.
Yes, topped off at exactly 300 yards in field (water blinds not quite as far). Called her off of numerous dead birds to go after cripples. She chased a green wing for 20 mins this morning after passing up 2 dead ones. Want to be more of a smart ***?

She is strictly a hunting dog and pet. Spade, not full blooded, no HR championships, just a good dog trained by a college student who doesn't get paid for it. I used that book and only that book. Haters gonna Hate.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:45 AM
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Yes, topped off at exactly 300 yards in field (water blinds not quite as far). Called her off of numerous dead birds to go after cripples. She chased a green wing for 20 mins this morning after passing up 2 dead ones. Want to be more of a smart ***?

She is strictly a hunting dog and pet. Spade, not full blooded, no HR championships, just a good dog trained by a college student who doesn't get paid for it. I used that book and only that book. Haters gonna Hate.
Water Dog is a great book. What I see alot of is dogs that are scared ****less their owners are going to shock them or kick their ash. Don't kill the spirit and fun hunting should be for the dog.
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:18 PM
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Water Dog is a great book. What I see alot of is dogs that are scared ****less their owners are going to shock them or kick their ash. Don't kill the spirit and fun hunting should be for the dog.
Then you haven't seen too many dogs that were properly collar conditioned. When I take the E-Collar out my dog starts wagging his tail with excitement, because he knows its time to go do the funnest thing he knows, the thing that's been bred into him for 100's of years, Retrieve. The E-collar properly used won't break even a sensitive dogs hunting spirit. But a disobedient and wild dog will certainly break mine. I know your response will be your dog is obedience without the collar, and that's great, but it doesn't make the man who uses the E-Collar wrong either. To each his own.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:57 PM
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Is he force fetched and will he run 300 yd blinds? Can you no him off a dead bird and pickup a cripple? WD was a scheme nothing more nothing less and written by a fruitcake. Training evolves like technology, evolve with it or get runover.
The guy never once said he was trying to train a champion. There is nothing wrong with someone simply wanting a dog to make a few simple retrieves and to be proud in the fact that he trained it himself. I have trained 4 dogs using waterdog and find it to be a useful tool if all you are looking for is a hunting dog/pet as I believe the original post was referring to.
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