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Reefman · #1 02-07-2012, 10:00 AM

I know most would prefer higher salinity levels going into spring time, but I personally believe a strong influx of fresh water will do the BL basin a tremendous amount of good for the estuary in the long term. Marsh in the surrounding areas will benefit greatly along with a healthy dose of nutrients for larval survival. Your thoughts?

"W" · #2 02-07-2012, 10:01 AM

Yes..its always good to get a big shot of Fresh water in BIG lake

Ray · #3 02-07-2012, 10:19 AM

Oysters prefer saltwater. Marshes getting enuff saltwater from the rain. They's full now.
I'm ready for the rain to stop. My grass in the back yard is almost ankle deep and it is
too wet to mow.

DUCKGOGETTER · #4 02-07-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by reefman

i know most would prefer higher salinity levels going into spring time, but i personally believe a strong influx of fresh water will do the bl basin a tremendous amount of good for the estuary in the long term. Marsh in the surrounding areas will benefit greatly along with a healthy dose of nutrients for larval survival. Your thoughts?

it will help for sure in our marsh in gc for the vegetation to grow back this summer. Come on teal season let's rock n roll. Too soon?

Reefman · #5 02-07-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER

it will help for sure in our marsh in gc for the vegetation to grow back this summer. Come on teal season let's rock n roll. Too soon?

Too Soon??? Absolutely not! 29 weeks and counting Chris! If we can keep a steady supply of fresh water through GC this summer, things will be really great by Sept.!

How long can oysters survive in low salinities? Verm Bay seems to have great production of oysters even with our 4 months of fresh river water in early summer.....

Salty · #6 02-07-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray

Oysters prefer saltwater. Marshes getting enuff saltwater from the rain. They's full now.
I'm ready for the rain to stop. My grass in the back yard is almost ankle deep and it is
too wet to mow.

Ray · #7 02-07-2012, 12:28 PM

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Screwed that up, didn't I.
Meant freshwater.

2ndamendment · #8 02-07-2012, 12:30 PM

Let mother nature do her thing

Ray · #9 02-07-2012, 12:33 PM

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Let mother nature do her thing

Can't, man put the levee around the East side, dug the ship channel and set the weirs.
That's what screwed it up to start with. Too much saltwater back there.
Drought caused a lot more saltwater to come in that normal. Killed off a buttload of good grass, causing more errosion.
Saltwater is killing them on the North side of Vermillion Bay also.

Salty · #10 02-07-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray

Screwed that up, didn't I.
Meant freshwater.

I knew whatcha meant.

Ray · #11 02-07-2012, 01:25 PM

Ima lil smarter than I look.

"W" · #12 02-07-2012, 01:35 PM

Fresh water means joe,s cove is on..

Ray · #13 02-07-2012, 01:39 PM

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Fresh water means joe,s cove is on..

Shhhh.

"W" · #14 02-07-2012, 02:06 PM

There is actually a know keep secrect of a place that keeps saltwater even when you have lots of freshwater ...... No body really knows why it don't drain or flush but you can have 1000% fresh water in turners and this place will be around 5ppm

I over herd Jeff Poe talking about this area..and it hold true
3 years ago when we had a real wet winter and spring...no one was catching fish but one of his guides was smashing them everyday in this area...and right now the salinity is higher than the south part of lake

Reefman · #15 02-07-2012, 02:11 PM

Do you feel the specks move out of the fresher water to the south part of the lake? I have always thought that there is a salty layer of water on the bottom with the fresh water on top. The specks in my opinion don't move that much with dropping salinities, however their feeding habits become different. Fish stay on the bottom until levels rise. I fish mostly VB and do find that we can catch fish in rather muddy fresh water. They do hug the bottom with the baits needing to be slowly worked. Ever notice the color difference of specks caught in a low salinity area?

"W" · #16 02-07-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefman

Do you feel the specks move out of the fresher water to the south part of the lake? I have always thought that there is a salty layer of water on the bottom with the fresh water on top. The specks in my opinion don't move that much with dropping salinities, however their feeding habits become different. Fish stay on the bottom until levels rise. I fish mostly VB and do find that we can catch fish in rather muddy fresh waterk. They do hug the bottom with the baits needing to be slowly worked. Ever notice the color difference of specks caught in a low salinity area?

Yea..100% they move when salinity falls..females for sure, males can stand lower salinity than females but the move

Raymond · #17 02-07-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefman

Do you feel the specks move out of the fresher water to the south part of the lake? I have always thought that there is a salty layer of water on the bottom with the fresh water on top. The specks in my opinion don't move that much with dropping salinities, however their feeding habits become different. Fish stay on the bottom until levels rise. I fish mostly VB and do find that we can catch fish in rather muddy fresh water. They do hug the bottom with the baits needing to be slowly worked. Ever notice the color difference of specks caught in a low salinity area?

This should change that.................

http://www.laseagrant.org/

Smalls · #18 02-07-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by "W"

There is actually a know keep secrect of a place that keeps saltwater even when you have lots of freshwater ...... No body really knows why it don't drain or flush but you can have 1000% fresh water in turners and this place will be around 5ppm

I over herd Jeff Poe talking about this area..and it hold true
3 years ago when we had a real wet winter and spring...no one was catching fish but one of his guides was smashing them everyday in this area...and right now the salinity is higher than the south part of lake

Hahaha, good joke.

Reefman · #19 02-07-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Raymond

This should change that.................

http://www.laseagrant.org/

Thanks for that info Raymond....very interesting grafts and such....still doesn't change my opinion on how and why I fish cetain areas of VB w/ low salinities.