Dr. Dobson reveals Liberty under attack

[Montauk17]

I'm sure most realize this but some don't. Obama is not the problem,big government as a whole is. This was a slow buildup to an evil scheme that started years ago way before obama got into office. Untill we start over from scratch I don't think it will get any better. Presidents these days are nothing more than a damn puppet.

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Charlie Daniels - Payback Time - YouTube

[Matt G]

Originally Posted by Montauk17

I'm sure most realize this but some don't. Obama is not the problem,big government as a whole is. This was a slow buildup to an evil scheme that started years ago way before obama got into office. Untill we start over from scratch I don't think it will get any better. Presidents these days are nothing more than a damn puppet.

Now that is a statement I can agree on.

Obama isn't out to destroy America like everyone says. He is just completely misguided in his endevors. Americans are the ones that are destroying America. Over the years, people began to put too much faith in the government and are now dependent on them to merely survive. If it were going to be fixed, it should have happend years ago.......... I'm afraid that it is too late to turn this country back around to the right direction. And by right I don't necessarily mean "to the right." A little give in take is needed from both sides to make it work. I just wish the left would quit taking and the right would quit giving.

There is no magic politican that will get in DC and change things. It needs to fail and start back with what our founding fathers had intended on this nation being.

[Montauk17]

Originally Posted by Matt G

Now that is a statement I can agree on.

Obama isn't out to destroy America like everyone says. He is just completely misguided in his endevors. Americans are the ones that are destroying America. Over the years, people began to put too much faith in the government and are now dependent on them to merely survive. If it were going to be fixed, it should have happend years ago.......... I'm afraid that it is too late to turn this country back around to the right direction. And by right I don't necessarily mean "to the right." A little give in take is needed from both sides to make it work. I just wish the left would quit taking and the right would quit giving.

There is no magic politican that will get in DC and change things. It needs to fail and start back with what our founding fathers had intended on this nation being.

You are correct,100 percent! Also it is not a left or right issue,they all do the same crap. I don't vote for either one,libertarian is the only one that will get my vote. IMO the voting system if flawed too so it doesn't do much good. I think Ron Paul would have done us alot of good if he was given the opportunity.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Montauk17

You are correct,100 percent! Also it is not a left or right issue,they all do the same crap. I don't vote for either one,libertarian is the only one that will get my vote. IMO the voting system if flawed too so it doesn't do much good. I think Ron Paul would have done us alot of good if he was given the opportunity.

I hope to stimulate a discussion regarding what more we can do at different levels in hopes of making a difference. Clearly, governmental intrusion is impacting liberty in the workplace, the school, the military, hunting and fishing, church, law enforcement, etc. How many churches are less inclined to speak directly and boldly about sexual immorality for fear of legal repercussions or change of tax exempt status? How many schools are teaching the PC baloney?

Here's what I'm doing (a drop in the bucket to be sure, but every bit helps):

Home schooling my children both to deliver higher quality in the core subjects (science, math, language arts, and social studies), as well as to prevent the socialist brainwashing that now dominates the public schools. You better believe our history includes the Constitution, the Federalist Papers, the abuses of power that gave rise to the American Revolution, and the contributions of the Judeo-Christian faith to both western civilization and the prosperity of the United States.

Supporting Christian ministries which still preach traditional Biblical family values. I try and notice when ministries intentionally avoid topics like adultery, teenage pregnancy and immorality, homosexuality, occult practices, and when they give overt approval to false religion and secular humanism. I try and notice when there is an overemphasis on reaching out to the lost through social programs without ever giving anyone the vaguest idea that sin might be a problem creating separation from God and needing the blood of Jesus to address the problem.

Encouraging and supporting grassroots efforts to limit growth of governmental power, especially when it is likely to intrude on matters of faith, education, and faith-based family values.

[2ndamendment]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

I hope to stimulate a discussion regarding what more we can do at different levels in hopes of making a difference. Clearly, governmental intrusion is impacting liberty in the workplace, the school, the military, hunting and fishing, church, law enforcement, etc. How many churches are less inclined to speak directly and boldly about sexual immorality for fear of legal repercussions or change of tax exempt status? How many schools are teaching the PC baloney?

Here's what I'm doing (a drop in the bucket to be sure, but every bit helps):

Home schooling my children both to deliver higher quality in the core subjects (science, math, language arts, and social studies), as well as to prevent the socialist brainwashing that now dominates the public schools. You better believe our history includes the Constitution, the Federalist Papers, the abuses of power that gave rise to the American Revolution, and the contributions of the Judeo-Christian faith to both western civilization and the prosperity of the United States.

Supporting Christian ministries which still preach traditional Biblical family values. I try and notice when ministries intentionally avoid topics like adultery, teenage pregnancy and immorality, homosexuality, occult practices, and when they give overt approval to false religion and secular humanism. I try and notice when there is an overemphasis on reaching out to the lost through social programs without ever giving anyone the vaguest idea that sin might be a problem creating separation from God and needing the blood of Jesus to address the problem.

Encouraging and supporting grassroots efforts to limit growth of governmental power, especially when it is likely to intrude on matters of faith, education, and faith-based family values.

AMEN mathgeek xxxxx10000000000000

[Montauk17]

Originally Posted by 2ndamendment

AMEN mathgeek xxxxx10000000000000

No doubt there..

[MathGeek]

I know many parents may not have the time, inclination, or resources to home school, and that's ok. One thing we like to do is to email links to thoughtful and well-informed articles (like this one) to our children a couple times each month to promote healthy conversations around the dinner table and while driving to practices and fishing and such. One of the big advantages to hunting and fishing with your children is you can spend time talking about what is happening at school and in the world around us.

My daughter has already posted the link to her facebook page and is pushing her own grassroots discussion about these things!