Answering the Libertarian argument for drug legalization

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by "W"

I think if your caught with weed it should be 5 year prison sentence 2nd time 15 years and 3rd time life


This will cut the pot going to kids and schools real quick

LSU wouldn't have a college program then

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Goooh

LSU wouldn't have a college program then

or football team

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by "W"

I think if your caught with weed it should be 5 year prison sentence 2nd time 15 years and 3rd time life


This will cut the pot going to kids and schools real quick

I feel that way about driving drunk. Extreme? Yep

Do you ever drink and drive? If so don't throw stones in your glass house.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by ckinchen

I feel that way about driving drunk. Extreme? Yep

Do you ever drink and drive? If so don't throw stones in your glass house.

Some scientific papers show that driving while "high" or "stoned" on cannabis is comparable to a blood alcohol level from 0.07% to 0.1% (0.08% is the legal limit for drunk driving).

And the effects of cannabis and alcohol are approximately additive. Driving with a blood alcohol level of 0.1% + being high on cannabis amounts to an impairment comparable to a blood alcohol level of 0.17% to 0.2%.

My wife recently got some boating training from the Coast Guard. She tells me that since dual impairment (booze + drugs) is so commonly encountered, if anyone on the boat appears impaired, they will board and do a thorough search for illegal drugs (and if it's the coasties, you are on federal turf, and the coasties have tremendous search and seizure powers in comparison with other law enforcement.)

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Some scientific papers show that driving while "high" or "stoned" on cannabis is comparable to a blood alcohol level from 0.07% to 0.1% (0.08% is the legal limit for drunk driving).

And the effects of cannabis and alcohol are approximately additive. Driving with a blood alcohol level of 0.1% + being high on cannabis amounts to an impairment comparable to a blood alcohol level of 0.17% to 0.2%.

My wife recently got some boating training from the Coast Guard. She tells me that since dual impairment (booze + drugs) is so commonly encountered, if anyone on the boat appears impaired, they will board and do a thorough search for illegal drugs (and if it's the coasties, you are on federal turf, and the coasties have tremendous search and seizure powers in comparison with other law enforcement.)

Got anything quantifying "stoned"?

What strain if pit was smoked? How long was it held in? How much was smoked? Was it consumed through a simple smoke or a mind blowing bong hit? How long after the time was the test done? How often did the person in the test smoke? We're they a veteran, or did they just smoke for the first time? How old were they? Did they have big lungs or small? Athlete or not? How long had they been awake? Was the person they compared to a veteran drinker? We're they drinking shots of whiskey or just beer? Or both?

[mcjaredsandwich]

Originally Posted by "W"

I think if your caught with weed it should be 5 year prison sentence 2nd time 15 years and 3rd time life


This will cut the pot going to kids and schools real quick

I've seen you post on here and facebook about being tired of paying for other people to live. I am asking you now, ARE YOU F*CKING SERIOUS?? You'd be paying to keep millions more alive in prison on your dollar. Your taxes would go up just to keep the prisoners fed, which would be millions upon millions.


Less money for you to spend! Still stand by your statement?

Like Casey said, same thing should be given to underage drinkers and people who drive drunk, public intoxication should carry a heavier fine as well as open container in vehicle, if that's truly your stance waltrip.



Can't tell if your post was serious or a huge troll attempt.

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by "W"

I think if your caught with weed it should be 5 year prison sentence 2nd time 15 years and 3rd time life


This will cut the pot going to kids and schools real quick

W... your talking about the current 3 strikes your out rules dude.... why do you think prisons are full to overflowing with nonviolent drug users. While violent person on person crimes are often plea bargained down?

["W"]

I dont drink and drive ( have I in the past) yes, never caught or DWI

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

I dont drink and drive ( have I in the past) yes, never caught or DWI

You never drink beer in your boat?

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

You never drink beer in your boat?

Of course not you silly pilgrim! and even if he did... don't you know thats not a drug?

[Clampy]

Alcohol was harder to get in school than pot and it was legal. Drug dealers don't card.

["W"]

Pot = sensitive people drug!!


Lmao!!!! Just dont do it or sell it to kids and you have nothing to worry about??

I for the life of me, will never understand why a person (grown adult) would want to support the legalization of drugs


Never thought in my lifetime this would even be a topic of discussion. I never used a drug in my life and never plan on it. I live a very successful life with out it.

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by "W"

Pot = sensitive people drug!!


Lmao!!!! Just dont do it or sell it to kids and you have nothing to worry about??

I for the life of me, will never understand why a person (grown adult) would want to support the legalization of drugs


Never thought in my lifetime this would even be a topic of discussion. I never used a drug in my life and never plan on it. I live a very successful life with out it.

Maybe to help their parent not die of self imposed starvation from alzheimers....

Nah... couldn't be that... i'm just a pothead stoner who can't form a complete sentence..

wait.

didn't i say in an earlier post that i don't use the stuff.. Heck i barely ever even drink a beer.


NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'm just an oversensitive stoner DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE********>

I mean really there needs to be a new good stoner movie.. we really need to get some new stoner related catch phrases... Dude, and Stoner, and MAN... have seen far to much use in this function.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by "W"

Pot = sensitive people drug!!


Lmao!!!! Just dont do it or sell it to kids and you have nothing to worry about??

I for the life of me, will never understand why a person (grown adult) would want to support the legalization of drugs


Never thought in my lifetime this would even be a topic of discussion. I never used a drug in my life and never plan on it. I live a very successful life with out it.

Are you aware that alcohol, nicotine and caffeine are drugs?

This isn't a discussion about making it legal to sell heroin and crack at Walgreens (although adderall is legal and prescribed to children, and it's basically meth), it's about legalizing an herb that is harmless compared to the 8 oz lime a Rita's you love so much.

I never thought that so many grown men could be scare into thinking that something is so harmful, yet they have little evidence to prove it and turn a blind eye to the drugs they love so dearly - talk about embarrassing.

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by "W"

Pot = sensitive people drug!!


Lmao!!!! Just dont do it or sell it to kids and you have nothing to worry about??

I for the life of me, will never understand why a person (grown adult) would want to support the legalization of drugs


Never thought in my lifetime this would even be a topic of discussion. I never used a drug in my life and never plan on it. I live a very successful life with out it.

Here's an idea... let me respond to this the way that MG would if he were to disagree with you W.

The reasons "W" that you can't for the life of you "comprehend" why a grown adult would want to legalize weed.

#1 You are sorely lacking in the critical thinking skills and analytic abilities needed to review studies published in various scientific and medical journals.

#2 If you been educated at Princeton, Harvard and Yale like I and the good wife have been. Those curriculae's first order of business would have been to relieve you of your "short man" syndrome, and your mind would have then been able to accept some small portion of what I have learned and know to be unimpeachable fact.

#3 Additionally although i do know that you took some time to reference some very valid studies on this matter, I don't think they merit any discussion by someone as obviously intelligent as myself.

please note that my Alter / Ego MissAimsSmallMissesSmall also agrees with me in every thing i do and say, She's is not quite as intelligent as me, however she is much more brilliant than any of you.


So go eat some cake "W" , do let the knowledgeable folks continue this discussion.

Oh and forgot to mention;

#4 As is said in the good book Thisisn'tapplicabletothisdiscussionicles 19:12 and god spoke and he said "You shall not listen to anyone other than Mathgeek, and of course his Harvard Educated wife!"

["W"]

Would you want a guy in your company smoking weed? Would you allow him to smoke weed? Would you trust his judgment skills? ( Hey Dude whats up)


LMAO, im old school i guess and dont think weed should be legal in any aspect of the term!!

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by "W"

Would you want a guy in your company smoking weed? Would you allow him to smoke weed? Would you trust his judgment skills? ( Hey Dude whats up)


LMAO, im old school i guess and dont think weed should be legal in any aspect of the term!!

Newsflash... probably half the guys in your company do smoke weed, in addition half of the other half are probably abusing medically prescribed opitates.. .... but they are like.... well sorta really safe duuuuude...

in retrospect the percentages are probably reversed.. prob half are on prescribed opiates, and half of the other half are dope fiends who live such henious lives... you have not even figured out that they smoke occassionally.

["W"]

Originally Posted by AceArcher

Newsflash... probably half the guys in your company do smoke weed, in addition half of the other half are probably abusing medically prescribed opitates.. .... but they are like.... well sorta really safe duuuuude...

in retrospect the percentages are probably reversed.. prob half are on prescribed opiates, and half of the other half are dope fiends who live such henious lives... you have not even figured out that they smoke occassionally.

I would say Zero at my company is on weed!!! If they are they must get by DOT drug test plus hair samples

And im sure there is no magic pill to get past that!!

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by "W"

I would say Zero at my company is on weed!!! If they are they must get by DOT drug test plus hair samples

And im sure there is no magic pill to get past that!!

Bwahahahahaha! What fantasy world do you live in


And NO ONE iin the oilfield smokes weed or meth



and why didn't you answer the question about drinking on your boat? Its just as illegal

["W"]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

Bwahahahahaha! What fantasy world do you live in


And NO ONE iin the oilfield smokes weed or meth



and why didn't you answer the question about drinking on your boat? Its just as illegal

1st off my company don't cover the "oil field"

And we have a real strict drug policy and we have had guys in passed caught but I put my career on it...your not getting passed our drug screens
So next question?


I dont drink in my boat at all

100 of people will tell you they never ever seen me drinking and driving a boat!!! Never

Next Question??