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Old 12-06-2013, 01:00 PM
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OK, next question. Why not have a gps collar or chip for lost dogs considering the expense and attachment people have for their hunting companions? Don't deer or other tracking dog owners have such technology?
Same reason Magic Johnson went without a Jimmy Hat, didn't think anything would happen. Out of the thousands of hunting dogs in the field during the 60 day season, how many actually get lost? The percentage is infintesimily(sp) low but most hunting dogs only go as far as their owners can chunk a rock. "Trained" dogs have the ability to pick up ducks out to extreme distances, they are "Athletes" in every sense of the word.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:02 PM
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Same reason Magic Johnson went without a Jimmy Hat, didn't think anything would happen. Out of the thousands of hunting dogs in the field during the 60 day season, how many actually get lost? The percentage is infintesimily(sp) low but most hunting dogs only go as far as their owners can chunk a rock. "Trained" dogs have the ability to pick up ducks out to extreme distances, they are "Athletes" in every sense of the word.
You're not a big fan of insurance then, right? Out of the hundreds of thousands of homes in tornado alley, how many actually get hit by a twister?

I'm just saying if I had a substantial monetary, time and emotional investment, I'd make a small investment in a tracker. I hear of hunting dogs getting lost or stolen all the time.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:51 PM
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You're not a big fan of insurance then, right? Out of the hundreds of thousands of homes in tornado alley, how many actually get hit by a twister?

I'm just saying if I had a substantial monetary, time and emotional investment, I'd make a small investment in a tracker. I hear of hunting dogs getting lost or stolen all the time.
Your comparing apples and uranges on the analogy, and yes I know a little about insurance.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:26 PM
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Your comparing apples and uranges on the analogy, and yes I know a little about insurance.
You're right, dogs never get lost or stolen.

As you were.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:27 PM
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Same reason Magic Johnson went without a Jimmy Hat, didn't think anything would happen. Out of the thousands of hunting dogs in the field during the 60 day season, how many actually get lost? The percentage is infintesimily(sp) low but most hunting dogs only go as far as their owners can chunk a rock. "Trained" dogs have the ability to pick up ducks out to extreme distances, they are "Athletes" in every sense of the word.
Most good hunting dogs can back track themselves not like robot dogs
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:53 PM
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Most good hunting dogs can back track themselves not like robot dogs
Never seen a "Robot" dog, can you point me to one so I can gleen some new information? There are only two who know what goes on in a dogs head; God and the Dog and neither one are talking.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:59 PM
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Never seen a "Robot" dog, can you point me to one so I can gleen some new information? There are only two who know what goes on in a dogs head; God and the Dog and neither one are talking.
I just thought with all the training you do with dogs you trained them to come back like a robot
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:11 PM
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I just thought with all the training you do with dogs you trained them to come back like a robot
Once a dog gets so far out... The athlete kind ... Bc they went on a blind and they are taught to go in. A straight line until they hear a whistle... Well... If he got 100yds out and the winds were blowing in wrong direction and he couldn't hear a whistle he may have kept on going. Bc that's what they know. Maybe the e collar didn't reach that far and if it did and owner nicked him but dog didn't hear a whistle he could possibly interpret that into keep on going possibly...?? My .02... I hope that man finds his dog. My dog has nowhere near the time and money invested and I'd be lost without by buddy!


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Old 12-06-2013, 03:32 PM
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Once a dog gets so far out... The athlete kind ... Bc they went on a blind and they are taught to go in. A straight line until they hear a whistle... Well... If he got 100yds out and the winds were blowing in wrong direction and he couldn't hear a whistle he may have kept on going. Bc that's what they know. Maybe the e collar didn't reach that far and if it did anda whistle he could possibly interpret that into keep on going possibly...?? My .02 owner nicked him but dog didn't hear ... I hope that man finds his dog. My dog has nowhere near the time and money invested and I'd be lost without by buddy!


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Owner called me this morning and we spoke at length. He didn't even remember turning the collar on. Dogs can hear a whistle at 600 + yards so that theory is probably not valid. Eli was sent on a bird he saw fall and it was a relitively easy retrieve, $hit happened and he didn't come back. If he had been a "Rock" dog there would have been no chance for him to get lost since they only go as far as the rock can be thrown.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:38 PM
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Hate to ask this, but what about alligators? what was the temp that day?
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Owner called me this morning and we spoke at length. He didn't even remember turning the collar on. Dogs can hear a whistle at 600 + yards so that theory is probably not valid. Eli was sent on a bird he saw fall and it was a relitively easy retrieve, $hit happened and he didn't come back. If he had been a "Rock" dog there would have been no chance for him to get lost since they only go as far as the rock can be thrown.
Gotcha... Thx for reply... Sux this happened... That 600yard theory can't be true after a certain age with dogs being right by a muzzle blast for 5yrs or so huh? A good buddy of mines dog just passed the fall grand and he believes she has some hearing loss. Sometimes wind not in handlers favor she can't hear whistle...


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Old 12-06-2013, 03:13 PM
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I just thought with all the training you do with dogs you trained them to come back like a robot
Generally, they see me wearing my White coat and know there are several more birds they need to pick up. Even in controlled situations they can get turned around (wind,terrain,ect). Fog is the biggest problem when hunting since noise bounces off the heavy air plus they can't see. Straight lines make dogs more efficient at their jobs not robotic.
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Never seen a "Robot" dog, can you point me to one so I can gleen some new information? There are only two who know what goes on in a dogs head; God and the Dog and neither one are talking.
Caesar Milan?


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Please don't turn this into a couda,wouda,shoda thread. Hind sight is always 20-20 and if he had it to do over again the dog would have had a GPS collar. Enough said about what could have been done. Please keep the word going and help us find Eli!!!
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Please don't turn this into a couda,wouda,shoda thread. Hind sight is always 20-20 and if he had it to do over again the dog would have had a GPS collar. Enough said about what could have been done. Please keep the word going and help us find Eli!!!
True!!! Let's do this!!!


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