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[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Salty

Same as red drum.

Almost. The bag limits are the same 5 drum per day over 16" with a max of one drum over 27".

The difference is that with redfish, the possession limit (on land not while fishing) is two daily bag limits. With black drum, the possession limit is the same as a single day's bag limit.

I have no idea why you can possess 10 legal redfish (on land, not fishing) but only 5 black drum, but that is what the regulations say.

["W"]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Almost. The bag limits are the same 5 drum per day over 16" with a max of one drum over 27".

The difference is that with redfish, the possession limit (on land not while fishing) is two daily bag limits. With black drum, the possession limit is the same as a single day's bag limit.

I have no idea why you can possess 10 legal redfish (on land, not fishing) but only 5 black drum, but that is what the regulations say.

What I don't understand is why we even have a limit on black drum..... I'm sure only about 3% who fish big lake even target them

Kill all them oyster eaten trashy things!!

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by "W"

What I don't understand is why we even have a limit on black drum..... I'm sure only about 3% who fish big lake even target them

Kill all them oyster eaten trashy things!!

We target them ... as soon as we have a limit of redfish in the box. We're getting pretty good at it. Anybody want any tips?

["W"]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

We target them ... as soon as we have a limit of redfish in the box. We're getting pretty good at it. Anybody want any tips?

Only tip I can give u on black drum is keep tipping with shrimp!!

What you catch after limit rip gills outs

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by "W"

Only tip I can give u on black drum is keep tipping with shrimp!!

What you catch after limit rip gills outs

Yeah, black drum are strongly scent oriented feeders, and they don't usually go for the built in scent on Gulp. Shrimp is the ticket if you are tipping an artificial bait, but crab is better if you are baiting a bare hook. For the bulls, we used the same cracked crab (1/2 crab) technique that we use for bull redfish, but we focus on the inside of the jetties rather than on the outside, or at the "drum hole" just past the end. If the catfish are ripping your shrimp or cracked to shreds, a crab claw has a better chance of lasting long enough for a drum to find it. Most of the trot line runners use crab claws for this reason.

Belle pass has drum holes too, right at the end of the jetties. There are some holes in Caminada pass too that hold black drum, but they are harder to find. Use your sonar. We catch more bull reds on the flats 10-15 feet deep. The bull drum hang out more in the holes a bit deeper. There are times of year when the black drum hit the oyster bars, but the drum holes and deep spots in the passes are a good bet any time of year.

I wish we were as good at catching sheephead, but that's still hit and miss.

["W"]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Yeah, black drum are strongly scent oriented feeders, and they don't usually go for the built in scent on Gulp. Shrimp is the ticket if you are tipping an artificial bait, but crab is better if you are baiting a bare hook. For the bulls, we used the same cracked crab (1/2 crab) technique that we use for bull redfish, but we focus on the inside of the jetties rather than on the outside, or at the "drum hole" just past the end. If the catfish are ripping your shrimp or cracked to shreds, a crab claw has a better chance of lasting long enough for a drum to find it. Most of the trot line runners use crab claws for this reason.

Belle pass has drum holes too, right at the end of the jetties. There are some holes in Caminada pass too that hold black drum, but they are harder to find. Use your sonar. We catch more bull reds on the flats 10-15 feet deep. The bull drum hang out more in the holes a bit deeper. There are times of year when the black drum hit the oyster bars, but the drum holes and deep spots in the passes are a good bet any time of year.

I wish we were as good at catching sheephead, but that's still hit and miss.

You sure your not from.Texas?

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by "W"

You sure your not from.Texas?

I love Texas. When we were making regular trips between LA and Colorado, it always felt like we were on home turf when we cross the state line into Texas.

But I was born in NOLA and grew up in Lake Charles. Went to TH Watkins Elementary school. My dad let us fish on a Prien Lake pier while he played golf every weekend. We caught drum and croaker, with the occasional redfish. Moved to Metairie right before Jr. High, graduated from Grace King, then to LSU. Never lived in Texas, but visited a lot and always loved it.

[slickfish]

Originally Posted by "W"

Only tip I can give u on black drum is keep tipping with shrimp!!

What you catch after limit rip gills outs

Genius idea

[keakar]

Originally Posted by "W"

What I don't understand is why we even have a limit on black drum..... I'm sure only about 3% who fish big lake even target them

Kill all them oyster eaten trashy things!!

because way back when the gill net ban and reducing limits because of overfishing bruhaha was going on they (GCCA) said drum had to be protected the same as redfish or the restuarants would quickly deplete the drum stocks as well by selling them as "blackened redfish" in all the restuarants. you cant tell the difference after its cooked.

they also said at that time the redfish limits would be doubled and the drum limits removed once the redfish stocks returned to normal. well the redfish stocks are at record levels of overpopulation yet they will never honor what they said to get those regulations passed.

im not a greedy fisherman but I dont hunt so I do depend a lot on putting fish in the freezer to make groceries or go hungry. many days I just eat potato stew with no meat.

there is absolutely no reason why they cant and they should double the red limit to 10 and reduce the size to 14" as well as remove all restrictions from drum. most people don't keep any sized drum anyways and I would much prefer 10 reds 14-15" long then 5 over 24" because the small ones are better eating.

they only know how to take things away they never give anything back by increasing limits on things no longer needing protection like reds.