Bl rant

[BassYakR]

Sounds like a good plan to me... Need to know someone in the "know" to get the ball rolling.

[eman]

CCA is to busy leaning on this. http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.s...se_louisi.html

[bayouchub]

Originally Posted by eman

CCA is to busy leaning on this. http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.s...se_louisi.html

Ohhh no. Not $7.50 one time per year. Lol

[eman]

Originally Posted by bayouchub

Ohhh no. Not $7.50 one time per year. Lol

Really don't care about the money, it's so they can get more scientific research. Why?,they ignore what research that is out there now.
# trout limits

[BassYakR]

Id be willing to guarantee that that extra money is never spent on research of any kind! If it was for actual research to help the ecosystem in our area to keep this area the sportsmans paradise for future generations then I don't mind paying the extra money. BUT im pretty sure that this will not happen.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Jadams

I'm sure they would but u need an organization such as cca to lean on em.....they got a limit changed w no scientific data... Surely they can talk big business into doin a tax write off.... Everyone wins cca looks like a hero. Port writes it off... Fisherman preserve their lake


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I can provide 1000xs more evidence that we have an erosion problem than what they proved we needed a 15 trout limit

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by "W"

I can provide 1000xs more evidence that we have an erosion problem than what they proved we needed a 15 trout limit

Actually, some rock walls along the ship channel would probably be effective in reducing saltwater intrusion into the marsh also, especially if they were a nearly unbroken line with just a couple of cuts to allow boat traffic to pass (like the jetties). If this can be pitched as the primary motivating factor (along with erosion control) it might even be possible for some of the BP money to be redirected to the project.

It makes more sense from a cost and long term maintenance viewpoint than attempting a saltwater barrier across the channel at the jetties. The basic idea is to maintain more of a gradient with saltier water being kept in the channel, and lower salinities in the lake. If salinities in the lake were lower, then the weirs could be open more days each year to allow bait and fish to flow back and forth between the lake and the marsh. Looks like many parties could win in this arrangement, protecting the marsh from saltwater intrusion, protecting the banks from erosion, and maintaining and improving the inshore fishery.

[tngbmt]

with all the 'hot bite' posts from here from guides i thought that trouts were jumping in the boat by themselves.

[BassYakR]

Originally Posted by tngbmt

with all the 'hot bite' posts from here from guides i thought that trouts were jumping in the boat by themselves.

what reports? I haven't seen a single report lately from this side of the state! all have been from the east.

[BuckingFastard]

Originally Posted by BassYakR

what reports? I haven't seen a single report lately from this side of the state! all have been from the east.

oh yea the "dularge dinks" argument thread.... they really do catch a lot over there and they post lots of good pics.

[toodeep]

IF every boat that went out every day caught their limit. just using 100 boats. that would be 1000 trout left in the water everyday that have to eat only a given amount of food equal a dead lake in a few years.. the limit needs to raised to keep the fish and food supply in balance. fish are no different than deer. DMAP says you need to X amount of does to keep herd in check.

[cgoods17]

Originally Posted by toodeep

IF every boat that went out every day caught their limit. just using 100 boats. that would be 1000 trout left in the water everyday that have to eat only a given amount of food equal a dead lake in a few years.. the limit needs to raised to keep the fish and food supply in balance. fish are no different than deer. DMAP says you need to X amount of does to keep herd in check.

you just went completely off subject, but thats okay.

[eman]

apples and horse shoes?

["W"]

Hand grenades and flowers

[neus]

beer bellies and boobs

[Goooh]

alcohol and pot

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Actually, some rock walls along the ship channel would probably be effective in reducing saltwater intrusion into the marsh also, especially if they were a nearly unbroken line with just a couple of cuts to allow boat traffic to pass (like the jetties). If this can be pitched as the primary motivating factor (along with erosion control) it might even be possible for some of the BP money to be redirected to the project.

It makes more sense from a cost and long term maintenance viewpoint than attempting a saltwater barrier across the channel at the jetties. The basic idea is to maintain more of a gradient with saltier water being kept in the channel, and lower salinities in the lake. If salinities in the lake were lower, then the weirs could be open more days each year to allow bait and fish to flow back and forth between the lake and the marsh. Looks like many parties could win in this arrangement, protecting the marsh from saltwater intrusion, protecting the banks from erosion, and maintaining and improving the inshore fishery.

I'm shocked that any rock is going in anywhere. Last I heard, National Marine Fisheries was shutting down every attempt to rock coastline or anything. Said it destroys fish habitat.

All good points though. All of this would make a lot of sense, and would definitely solve a lot of problems. Would probably satisfy a lot of people. The big issue behind the weirs is salinity and holding it down. Reduce that, like you said, and e'ry body happy, happy, happy!!

[jchief]

One thing on this, I have also heard about them proposing to dredge the channel and put the spoil in the lake inside a rocked in area as they are doing on the channel now. There was a plan to fill in almost all of the Long Point area with spoil several years ago.

Going to have to keep an ear open to this.

Industry is the ones who pay to keep the channel open and at depth now. Long term, the rock will be cheaper than dredging, but it will take a while for them to finish what they started.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by jchief

One thing on this, I have also heard about them proposing to dredge the channel and put the spoil in the lake inside a rocked in area as they are doing on the channel now. There was a plan to fill in almost all of the Long Point area with spoil several years ago.

Going to have to keep an ear open to this.

Industry is the ones who pay to keep the channel open and at depth now. Long term, the rock will be cheaper than dredging, but it will take a while for them to finish what they started.

Industry does not pay that, it is the Army Corps of Engineers via our tax dollars. They have allocated $10mm for the widening of a few miles this year.

You can call 504-862-1759 to find out when pertinent meetings will be held to voice your concerns and ideas.

Big business doesn't pay for anything, the govt pays for this stuff due to the economic impact of hindering the businesses that rely on the channel. They are there because of the channel, and only because of it - let the channel close up, and the businesses leave along with all their jobs and money....

[T-TOP]

Originally Posted by Goooh

Industry does not pay that, it is the Army Corps of Engineers via our tax dollars. They have allocated $10mm for the widening of a few miles this year.

You can call 504-862-1759 to find out when pertinent meetings will be held to voice your concerns and ideas.

Big business doesn't pay for anything, the govt pays for this stuff due to the economic impact of hindering the businesses that rely on the channel. They are there because of the channel, and only because of it - let the channel close up, and the businesses leave along with all their jobs and money....

All of the local industies that share the ship channel, share the cost of dredging the channel. citgo, conoco, PPG, LNG etc. When I say dredging I mean maintaining the depth of the channel for ship traffic. The large dredge barges that we see every year in the channel dredging. I am not sure about the widening of the channel.