what y'all make of this?

[schol]

Pulled the gill nets out of the water, that's a tough one "W"

["W"]

Originally Posted by schol

Pulled the gill nets out of the water, that's a tough one "W"

CCA did not do that either it was the GCCA which was whole different organization ran by real fisherman, not business men in suits and ties who fish 9 X's a year at best

[hchol]

Originally Posted by "W"

CCA did not do that either it was the GCCA which was whole different organization ran by real fisherman, not business men in suits and ties who fish 9 X's a year at best

Hey W...you'd be broke if it wasn't for those office fisherman!!!!!!

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by hchol

Hey W...you'd be broke if it wasn't for those office fisherman!!!!!!

No one doubts that GCCA contributed to the gill net ban and reducing commercial pressure on redfish in the 80s and 90s. In 1997 there were some changes to the organization, and it emerged as CCA.

After that time, CCA has taken a number of odd positions for a group purportedly committed to scientific management positions. Most of their work in LA has been focused in increasing restrictive regulations, raising fees, and bringing boatloads of cash back to TX for expensive restoration projects:

http://www.ccatexas.org/wp-content/u...Funds-2013.pdf

http://www.ccatexas.org/wp-content/u...Scientists.pdf

http://www.ccatexas.org/conservation/research/

I think W would still be a successful guide had CCA never existed. Eventually redfish would have been protected and gillnets would have been banned. Redfish and speck populations are extremely resilient, especially in Louisiana, and the populations would have bounced back by the time W became a guide.

Unlike resilient redfish and speck populations, habitat does not bounce back. Once it's gone, restoration is painstakingly expensive and slow.

[lil bubba]

Gill nets weren't the problem with the redfish. Maybe in big lake , i don't have a clue what goes on there but back in the day you had wdsu news shooting film in the gulf on the florida purse seiners raping massive schools of bull reds in the gulf and when the boats were full the thousands of pounds were left for the sharks and crabs.
WLF stated they were properly licensed to do it that it was up to the legislature and they claimed until a bill was passed to stop it they could not do anything, sound familiar . and remember it is not just commercial and recreational,,,,its commercial , recreational , and outlaw. So now gill nets are gone. How many fish are the i don't know how many guides are bringing in now. Go to lasp and see year round the fish splattered on the docks. In my opinion if you are a guide with a paying customer on board you are a commercial operation. you are a commercial fisherman and should not be allowed to keep any fish. I did say this was just my opinion......As far as oysters, lets exclude big lake , there are more oyster beds in the marsh because of the oyster fisherman. And no i am not a member of cca and never will be...










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[keakar]

I think I have figured all this out:

its called the Coastal Conservation Association and not Defender of Fishermens Rights Association or Science Based Wildlife Management Association so there it is, its all in the name.

lets stop bashing CCA for inaction on our important issues because they are a Conservation based organization only and that's why they care little about fishermens rights or science based species management, they are only concerned with things that are conservation based and habitat creation.

so there you have it, they only get involved to restrict fishing and hunting rights and work to build reefs and plant things to create new habitat and that's ALL they care about.

hey, I don't see them as bad at all, they do a good job doing what they do but what they do will NEVER be the things we care about. you don't ask a carpenter to fix your car so don't ask a conservation group to do anything but work to restrict fishing rights and build habitat.

there needs to be an effort to work to enlarge and generate more support and fund raising for any organization that is about fishermens rights and science based management ONLY.

leave the grass planting and reef building to CCA because that's what they do and they do it well.

[bjqx]

Originally Posted by schol

Pulled the gill nets out of the water, that's a tough one "W"

Game changer on Sabine after nets where gone.

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