Caught Cheating,,,spraybombed Truck

[simplepeddler]

........it's amazing how we are taught to jump to conclusions.......

What is she cheated first?
What if the man has not been laid in years?
What if they are not even married?
What if, what if, what if.............

I spent years faithful to one woman, four years of dating pryor to that......three years doing the good boy catholic thing "waiting".......she left.......wanted something "better" accused me of being the bad guy, found a boyfriend, .......I moved on nine months later and I have been faithful to that woman for 13 years now.

All she has to do is imply something and I am/was a no good cheating SOB. And it's the "new" friends that beleive her

A picture is a thousand words..........

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

........it's amazing how we are taught to jump to conclusions.......

What is she cheated first?

A real man would divorce her and keep it in his pants until the divorce is final.

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

What if the man has not been laid in years?

See above.

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

What if they are not even married?
What if, what if, what if.............

The paint job indicates they were married. The lie would be obvious to all if the decorator was not his wife.

Sexual infidelity is the only thing that touches most women deeply enough to evoke the response on the truck. It's possible that the paint job is dishonest, but all my life experience tells me the owner of the truck cheated on his wife.

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

I spent years faithful to one woman, four years of dating pryor to that......three years doing the good boy catholic thing "waiting".......she left.......wanted something "better" accused me of being the bad guy, found a boyfriend,

Sorry you got cheated on. Sorry you were lied to. All that sucks.

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

All she has to do is imply something and I am/was a no good cheating SOB. And it's the "new" friends that beleive her

A picture is a thousand words..........

I think I'd move on and make a life where the woman's lies would not have any practical impact on my life. I've had people tell very serious lies about me before. Character becomes clear over time. Liar's lies eventually come to light, and people realize that I was scrupulously honest the whole time, and certain parties were lying and manipulating situations to their advantage. This is human nature.

Those who chose to believe liars (when they have reason not to) rather than a man of character and honesty should lose the benefits of the man's friendship and company.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

A real man would divorce her and keep it in his pants until the divorce is final.



See above.



The paint job indicates they were married. The lie would be obvious to all if the decorator was not his wife.

Sexual infidelity is the only thing that touches most women deeply enough to evoke the response on the truck. It's possible that the paint job is dishonest, but all my life experience tells me the owner of the truck cheated on his wife.



Sorry you got cheated on. Sorry you were lied to. All that sucks.



I think I'd move on and make a life where the woman's lies would not have any practical impact on my life. I've had people tell very serious lies about me before. Character becomes clear over time. Liar's lies eventually come to light, and people realize that I was scrupulously honest the whole time, and certain parties were lying and manipulating situations to their advantage. This is human nature.

Those who chose to believe liars (when they have reason not to) rather than a man of character and honesty should lose the benefits of the man's friendship and company.

Calling BS on this one bro. So you're saying a person male or female that F's up is not real? People are human and do stupid stuff. Been there and done it. Does the screw up mean that a family can't pull together to fix the problem? I believe this is were the old saying " walk a mile in his shoes" comes into play. People mess up everyday an anyone that claims they don't is living in a delusional world.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Calling BS on this one bro. So you're saying a person male or female that F's up is not real? People are human and do stupid stuff. Been there and done it. Does the screw up mean that a family can't pull together to fix the problem? I believe this is were the old saying " walk a mile in his shoes" comes into play. People mess up everyday an anyone that claims they don't is living in a delusional world.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the offended spouse offering forgiveness or the offending spouse asking for forgiveness and reconciliation.

My recommendation above for divorce was in specific reply to "what if the wife cheats first" as some sort of justification for going out and committing adultery. If a spouse has caused an irreconcilable offense and you want to have sex with other people, you should divorce your spouse first.

By all means, a family should "pull together and fix the problem" if at all possible. However, the offending spouse is at the mercy of the spouse that had adultery committed against him/her, so that if the offended spouse chooses, divorce is a viable option.

Who wouldn't have more respect for Hillary Clinton if she had divorced Bill? That was not a family "pulling together to fix the problem" it was a power hungry witch trying to help a philandering husband hide his ongoing evil.

A spouse is not going to find the happy marriage they hope for if they accept ongoing, persistent, unrepentant adultery. I'm glad for marriages that can survive a brief bout with sexual infidelity. Situations like the Clintons make me angry because of the horrible example they set for young women and men. Men are taught they can get away with it, and women are taught they should let it slide.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the offended spouse offering forgiveness or the offending spouse asking for forgiveness and reconciliation.

My recommendation above for divorce was in specific reply to "what if the wife cheats first" as some sort of justification for going out and committing adultery. If a spouse has caused an irreconcilable offense and you want to have sex with other people, you should divorce your spouse first.

By all means, a family should "pull together and fix the problem" if at all possible. However, the offending spouse is at the mercy of the spouse that had adultery committed against him/her, so that if the offended spouse chooses, divorce is a viable option.

Who wouldn't have more respect for Hillary Clinton if she had divorced Bill? That was not a family "pulling together to fix the problem" it was a power hungry witch trying to help a philandering husband hide his ongoing evil.

A spouse is not going to find the happy marriage they hope for if they accept ongoing, persistent, unrepentant adultery. I'm glad for marriages that can survive a brief bout with sexual infidelity. Situations like the Clintons make me angry because of the horrible example they set for young women and men. Men are taught they can get away with it, and women are taught they should let it slide.

Again im calling BS. You mixing politicians and adultery is the same as mixing cocaine and prostitutes. They just go hand in hand.
No one should ever accept ongoing adultery no matter if it is the man or the woman.
I will strongly disagree with your view that men are taught that its ok and that women are taught that they should just deal with it.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Again im calling BS. You mixing politicians and adultery is the same as mixing cocaine and prostitutes. They just go hand in hand.
No one should ever accept ongoing adultery no matter if it is the man or the woman.
I will strongly disagree with your view that men are taught that its ok and that women are taught that they should just deal with it.

Believe me, there are plenty of personal examples of this ugliness in my family too. I picked a public example, because it is well known. Men should not be taught that it is ok, but what did the failure to remove Bill from office and Hillary's failure to divorce him teach men? Bill got away with it. Lots of men get away with it. Men should not get away with adultery. 18 years of child support, a lifetime of alimony, and losing all his assets sound about right. A man should lose his job and career too if the adultery occurs at work or with a subordinate.

Women are seldom taught explicitly that they should deal with it, but what was the effect of Hillary's example and the example of other women who for one reason or the other tolerate their husband's ongoing adultery?

I think the woman who redecorated the truck set a fine example that adultery is not ok. Yeah, some property got damaged, but the harm caused by the cheating husband who has broken up one family and started another with some tramp is much greater.

I understand that there are some unfair things in the legal word of divorce and family court and all of that. I've never heard of a case so bad that I cannot honestly say that if the husband was cheating, he did not actually get less than his marital unfaithfulness deserved.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Adultery is a stupid game. Adulterers deserve all the stupid prizes divorce court offers.

[swampman46]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

If a spouse has caused an irreconcilable offense and you want to have sex with other people, you should divorce your spouse first.
A spouse is not going to find the happy marriage they hope for if they accept ongoing, persistent, unrepentant adultery.

Wait a minute! What kind of foolishness are you speaking here? Almost sounds like something we used to hear about years ago-but totally disregarded today. I think it was called...morals and values? People don't even understand the meaning of that anymore. Not to mention, no respect for the marriage itself. We're living in a "forgive and forget" society.

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by swampman46

Wait a minute! What kind of foolishness are you speaking here? Almost sounds like something we used to hear about years ago-but totally disregarded today. I think it was called...morals and values? People don't even understand the meaning of that anymore. Not to mention, no respect for the marriage itself. We're living in a "forgive and forget" society.

we are talking two different things here............I am talking "post" stupid decision.........you are talking "pre" stupid decision...........

"getting what he deserves".............is judgement.....................

from a morality standpoint........only One will judge on that...............

play stupid games win stupid prizes is great for horshoes and checkers......but when a "stupid" prize is loose you kids, then........yes that is stupid...........

Being a crappy husband does not automatically mean you are a crappy dad............

You can be a crappy mom all day long and still keep your kids..........it's a flippin farse

[bmac]

Sorry but cheating on your wife, getting busted, and then pretending you are still Father of the Year is BS. You will always be the guy who cheated on mom. Over time he may forgive you if you work hard.

If you justify your cheating by saying mom was a crack whore or a btch or whatever then you have just taught your son that cheating is OK if his wife is not perfect in his opinion.

If the wife has a problem like that you get her help. If help doesnt fix it then thats between you and your religion if you want to get a divorce. But get the divorce before you start banging other broads.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

"getting what he deserves".............is judgement.....................

from a morality standpoint........only One will judge on that...............

play stupid games win stupid prizes is great for horshoes and checkers......but when a "stupid" prize is loose you kids, then........yes that is stupid...........

Being a crappy husband does not automatically mean you are a crappy dad............

Marriage is a public institution and a binding contract that is dissolved through a process in the public courts. Being a representative republic, the laws that govern that court process are determined by the legislature. Some attempts have been made in this forum to assert that the court process is in extremely unfair to adulterous husbands.

Saying that many adulterous husbands who lose most of their possessions and end up paying alimony and child support for a long time are "getting what they deserve" is not rendering an unbiblical judgement, it is taking the opposite viewpoint in a public discussion on divorce policy and practice in the State of Louisiana.

Adulterous husbands say, "The divorce outcomes are grossly unfair." It is not an unbiblical judgement to say, "They seem reasonable to me."

Adulterous husbands put the courts and society as a whole in the uncomfortable position of needing to make real decisions in policy and practice regarding division of assets, alimony, child support, and child custody.

They should not complain of being judged when their behavior is what led to the necessity of policy and practice in these delicate matters. ANY policy or decision regarding division of assets, alimony, custody, and support is in some sense a judgment. Adulterous husbands complain because they wish for judgments harsher on their wives and more favorable to them.

I wasn't born yesterday, and I did not just crawl out from under a rock. The idea that one can separate serial adultery on the part of a husband and claim there are not severe deficiencies as a father is ridiculous.

The adulterous husband has knowingly and deliberately broken perhaps the most important vow of his life, provided an example for his children of abominable behavior, given his wife and the law just cause to severely reduce his involvement in his children's lives, and most likely engaged in a long pattern of deception and lying to hide the evil behavior, destroying all real trust with his wife, children, and others he lied to. Is it a mystery to husbands when they decide to commit adultery that their family will probably be subjected to the judgment of the divorce courts as a result, and that the outcomes will be much less favorable than had the husband remained faithful?

This is not to say that relationships cannot be mended and restored and the husband and father cannot ever become a good and contributing father in his children's lives. It is to say that the road to progress is hastened and strengthened by accepting the consequences meted out by the court, resolving to make amends by wholeheartedly accepting the court's orders, and letting that serve as a proof and as a foundation that the (former) husband and (ongoing) father intends to do right by the family.

An ongoing wrestling match with the mother and with the orders of the court does not bless the children.