Thank You

["W"]

I will leave it at this .... I need no other answer because I know for a fact 1000% he is telling the truth
Y'all the sheep can bahhhh bahhhh all they want but this is the bible of it
The Truth

I'm done

["W"]

...

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Reefman

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In the beginning, there were no paid employees (here in LA). After several years of getting no where in the State Legislature, the LA assoc decided to hire a lobbyist. After that a state director was then hired. I haven't sat on the board for quite a few years, I don't know who gets paid now a days.

CCAs last Federal 990 Form showed 12 employees with Texas addresses making 6 figures salaries or more.

[hewes]

wheres Raymond? waiting on awnsers

["W"]

Originally Posted by hewes

wheres Raymond? waiting on awnsers

Getting his CCA shirt starched

He has zero answers !!

He can not come here and give one thing CCA has done here on the lake the last 10-15 hell 20 years

Other than a reef In turners almost washed away and a 500k plus donated reef ( love to see what a non donated reef cost ? 2mill? )

Raymond was CCA president and all he can show for his actions were a hoot shoot with the Brad Vincent Bouys !!!


While Oyster dredging is still going on
Erosion is still washing away land
Weirs still choking off lake
And dredging still silting up lake reefs

But "sit tight " our CCA board members who I was told by a close source
Out of everyone might spend a total of 3 days max a month on Big Lake if that !

And that is your board members from what I'm told !

But I don't know any of them left but Andy and Kevin

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by hewes

wheres Raymond? waiting on awnsers

He's not going to answer, if he does, he is begging for someone to give him some answers. I doubt he knows anything himself.

They may come on here and give us a list of things they have tried to do, but it's all bull****. They have the power to get things done if they really want to. They changed the limit from 25-15 because of a social issue and they changed the triple tail limit very quickly, all while trying to keep it away from the public. If they want something done, they can get it done. Their priorities are extremely screwed up.

Back to changing limits due to a social issue(straight from David Cressons mouth), is so wrong. People over-look this often, but it is no different from Obama taking private healthcare from us. Limits should be set from BIOLOGICAL DATA. No one has a right to take citizens natural resources from them based on social issues.

This topic has been beat to death, but it is a damn shame that the one organization with enough power to get things done can't be relied on.

["W"]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

He's not going to answer, if he does, he is begging for someone to give him some answers. I doubt he knows anything himself.

They may come on here and give us a list of things they have tried to do, but it's all bull****. They have the power to get things done if they really want to. They changed the limit from 25-15 because of a social issue and they changed the triple tail limit very quickly, all while trying to keep it away from the public. If they want something done, they can get it done. Their priorities are extremely screwed up.

Back to changing limits due to a social issue(straight from David Cressons mouth), is so wrong. People over-look this often, but it is no different from Obama taking private healthcare from us. Limits should be set from BIOLOGICAL DATA. No one has a right to take citizens natural resources from them based on social issues.

This topic has been beat to death, but it is a damn shame that the one organization with enough power to get things done can't be relied on.

CCA sheep will tell you "sit Tight " great things are coming

LMAO I have so many contacts though fishing industry and not one has anything good to say about the CCA

This past week CCA was a cuss word as just about every guide was offshore catching 20-50 triple tail and only able to keep 3 -6 due to 18inch law

One cussed out the poor biologist guy taking fish surveys last weekend and the guy said man that is your CCA

During our rain delay today the CCA was bashed for over an hour by fisherman the ones who they are supposed to support

Sad when every fisherman can't stand the only conservation group in the state !!!

Damn shame CCA is our enemy and slave to old money and I speak for lots of great fisherman who don't get in the internet

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by "W"

CCA sheep will tell you "sit Tight " great things are coming

LMAO I have so many contacts though fishing industry and not one has anything good to say about the CCA

This past week CCA was a cuss word as just about every guide was offshore catching 20-50 triple tail and only able to keep 3 -6 due to 18inch law

One cussed out the poor biologist guy taking fish surveys last weekend and the guy said man that is your CCA

During our rain delay today the CCA was bashed for over an hour by fisherman the ones who they are supposed to support

Sad when every fisherman can't stand the only conservation group in the state !!!

Damn shame CCA is our enemy and slave to old money and I speak for lots of great fisherman who don't get in the internet

Yeah I was at spicers, I talked to biologist, he said that it was CCA.

Oh well, guess triple tail fishing isn't worth it anymore. Between CCA and the Feds, we won't be able to catch anything pretty soon. No more good ole fashioned meat hauls. Hell, we can't even keep triggerfish right now.

["W"]

Hey man

It's a Social cause !!


Enough with the CCA I'm going try to beat the rain and kill 60 trout while I still can

[T-TOP]

Originally Posted by "W"

No no No No No



This was a whole diffrent organization not even ran by the same system !!



GCCA was branched for The Gulf coast only



Once they were not funded heavy they then hired all these bootleggers and turned it into a money making operation



They have a great read on both and how it became somewhere on the web , think it was posted on RodnReel.com a year or so ago





They were two different teams

In 1984 GCCA created the national umbrella organization called the CCA. Due to the east and west coast requests for joining. CCA was created when you were about 4yrs old.


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[specknation]

It seems here in the East most guys that join CCA do it more of social thing to do. Most are fare weather type fisherman, and just think it's cool to go to the meetings and get prizes and get liquored up. I went to a local meeting 10 years ago and realize 80% of these guys are live bait chunkers, and have not a clue on how to fish. They just want GPS cords and a livewell full of live shrimp and 7 powerpoles on the back of there 70,000 bay boats. With all that being said ,if that's what floats there boat no problem with me. After working 10 years with LDWF in marine research and never ever seeing or talking to a CCA person I knew not to expect much from them.

[ifsteve]

Originally Posted by "W"

CCA sheep will tell you "sit Tight " great things are coming

LMAO I have so many contacts though fishing industry and not one has anything good to say about the CCA

This past week CCA was a cuss word as just about every guide was offshore catching 20-50 triple tail and only able to keep 3 -6 due to 18inch law

One cussed out the poor biologist guy taking fish surveys last weekend and the guy said man that is your CCA

During our rain delay today the CCA was bashed for over an hour by fisherman the ones who they are supposed to support

Sad when every fisherman can't stand the only conservation group in the state !!!

Damn shame CCA is our enemy and slave to old money and I speak for lots of great fisherman who don't get in the internet

What a most entertaining thread. There is more double speak and contradictions on here from both sides that it is impossible for anyone to form a knowledgeable position. But this post was the one that finally broke me to have to respond.

W you spend a ton of time on here chiding people and entities whenever there is a discussion on the resource to make sure they are backing it up with sound scientific data. To which I fully support.

And in line with that on the subject of guides keeping their limits you blasted the NOLA Times article that quoted two guides anecdotal stories of how they just don't see the fish numbers they used to. Not scientific evidence you said.

But RIGHT HERE you contradict yourself when talking about 3tails and pointing to the guides catching so many 3tails that the inferred point is that there have to be oodles of them.

I have absolutely zero idea on the state of 3tails BUT if anecdotal input from guides is ok for them then it is EQUALLY valid to use in discussing the state of other fisheries.

You can't pick and choose when you want to play the science card.

["W"]

Originally Posted by ifsteve

What a most entertaining thread. There is more double speak and contradictions on here from both sides that it is impossible for anyone to form a knowledgeable position. But this post was the one that finally broke me to have to respond.

W you spend a ton of time on here chiding people and entities whenever there is a discussion on the resource to make sure they are backing it up with sound scientific data. To which I fully support.

And in line with that on the subject of guides keeping their limits you blasted the NOLA Times article that quoted two guides anecdotal stories of how they just don't see the fish numbers they used to. Not scientific evidence you said.

But RIGHT HERE you contradict yourself when talking about 3tails and pointing to the guides catching so many 3tails that the inferred point is that there have to be oodles of them.

I have absolutely zero idea on the state of 3tails BUT if anecdotal input from guides is ok for them then it is EQUALLY valid to use in discussing the state of other fisheries.

You can't pick and choose when you want to play the science card.

What in the hell are you talking about ?! The State of La has ZERO

Big red O on triple tail research !!


I did not support a limit in 3 tail there should be zero until we have the data

I'm all for data and science so what are you talking about?

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by ifsteve

What a most entertaining thread. There is more double speak and contradictions on here from both sides that it is impossible for anyone to form a knowledgeable position. But this post was the one that finally broke me to have to respond.

W you spend a ton of time on here chiding people and entities whenever there is a discussion on the resource to make sure they are backing it up with sound scientific data. To which I fully support.

And in line with that on the subject of guides keeping their limits you blasted the NOLA Times article that quoted two guides anecdotal stories of how they just don't see the fish numbers they used to. Not scientific evidence you said.

But RIGHT HERE you contradict yourself when talking about 3tails and pointing to the guides catching so many 3tails that the inferred point is that there have to be oodles of them.

I have absolutely zero idea on the state of 3tails BUT if anecdotal input from guides is ok for them then it is EQUALLY valid to use in discussing the state of other fisheries.

You can't pick and choose when you want to play the science card.

Dude u don't know

[mr crab]

Originally Posted by "W"

CCA sheep will tell you "sit Tight " great things are coming

LMAO I have so many contacts though fishing industry and not one has anything good to say about the CCA

This past week CCA was a cuss word as just about every guide was offshore catching 20-50 triple tail and only able to keep 3 -6 due to 18inch law

One cussed out the poor biologist guy taking fish surveys last weekend and the guy said man that is your CCA

During our rain delay today the CCA was bashed for over an hour by fisherman the ones who they are supposed to support

Sad when every fisherman can't stand the only conservation group in the state !!!

Damn shame CCA is our enemy and slave to old money and I speak for lots of great fisherman who don't get in the internet

Hey man...there is no minimum size limit or bag limit on triple tail in federal waters.....listen to what I'm trying to tell ya'll. I ain't posting pics, but thats the rules I'm abiding by.

[mr crab]

Originally Posted by mr crab

Hey man...there is no minimum size limit or bag limit on triple tail in federal waters.....listen to what I'm trying to tell ya'll. I ain't posting pics, but thats the rules I'm abiding by.

No warden at the ramp can prove where the fish were caught. And they prolly don't care. Now, if you meet a badge on the water....different story. But honestly, outta Sabine jetties, more trips are caught in fed waters than state anyways. It's just most fishermen choose to abide by the state reg instead of the fed reg. thats ridiculous to me since the state reg allows 4 red snaps per day and the fed reg allows zero. I ain't gonna get screwed on both, but hey, thats just me

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by mr crab

No warden at the ramp can prove where the fish were caught. And they prolly don't care. Now, if you meet a badge on the water....different story. But honestly, outta Sabine jetties, more trips are caught in fed waters than state anyways. It's just most fishermen choose to abide by the state reg instead of the fed reg. thats ridiculous to me since the state reg allows 4 red snaps per day and the fed reg allows zero. I ain't gonna get screwed on both, but hey, thats just me

All my snaps are caught in state waters and all my trips are caught in fed water. Not my fault

[Natural Light Kid]

W, I thought you said you were done about 5 posts ago. Anyway, how long we're you a member of cca? How many conservation projects did you champion for the Calcasieau estuary during that time? I'm not trying to call you out, I am just wondering.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid

W, I thought you said you were done about 5 posts ago. Anyway, how long we're you a member of cca? How many conservation projects did you champion for the Calcasieau estuary during that time? I'm not trying to call you out, I am just wondering.

I don't campaign I'm not a politician

But I have done plenty and still doing

At one time I probably tagged the most fish ever in this estuary
After both Hurricanes Rita and Ike I was out on the water tagging and locating debris for removel
Today I'm working with a group of guys that will be involved with the rocking of the wash out and 9mile project to lower the salinity in the lake
What have you done?

[mr crab]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

All my snaps are caught in state waters and all my trips are caught in fed water. Not my fault

zackly.....these lawmakers have so many dang rules, that a studious fisherman can use some of the rules to his advantage. The app from the GOMFMC is very useful in figuring out the red tape