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Old 07-18-2014, 09:01 AM
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This question is specifically for you. What do you recommend for someone in my position? Not much money and hardly any time to donate to the cause of helping the Calcasieu estuary. In the past I have been a member of CCA and participated in STAR. Do you have a better idea of where those dollars should go if CCA is such a horrible organization? For the record, it was at a CCA banquet that I met you at years ago. You were wearing a starched fishing shirt and taking money at the door lol.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:53 AM
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This question is specifically for you. What do you recommend for someone in my position? Not much money and hardly any time to donate to the cause of helping the Calcasieu estuary. In the past I have been a member of CCA and participated in STAR. Do you have a better idea of where those dollars should go if CCA is such a horrible organization?
I'd recommend keeping your money in your pocket for now. Why the feeling that you need to give to a "conservation" organization to "do something"?

Writing to the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission and to state legislators and attending meetings where policy makers are receiving input on policies is more important right now than giving money to organizations that have proven ineffective or disinterested or supporting harmful policies.

A well-written letter to the Commission and your legislator on an important issue (oyster dredging, tripletail limits, marsh loss, speck limits, scientific management, etc.) would be more beneficial at the present time than donations and membership fees to CCA. Let them know that it is a travesty to allow ongoing limit changes that are not supported with sound scientific data while neglecting the more important habitat preservation and restoration issues.

Cost: price of a stamp.

Benefit (compared with CCA donations): priceless.
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Old 07-18-2014, 11:29 AM
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This question is specifically for you. What do you recommend for someone in my position? Not much money and hardly any time to donate to the cause of helping the Calcasieu estuary. In the past I have been a member of CCA and participated in STAR. Do you have a better idea of where those dollars should go if CCA is such a horrible organization? For the record, it was at a CCA banquet that I met you at years ago. You were wearing a starched fishing shirt and taking money at the door lol.
Seriously w, I want your feed back on this. Thanks math geek too. Trying to do what's best.
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Old 07-18-2014, 12:10 PM
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This question is specifically for you. What do you recommend for someone in my position? Not much money and hardly any time to donate to the cause of helping the Calcasieu estuary. In the past I have been a member of CCA and participated in STAR. Do you have a better idea of where those dollars should go if CCA is such a horrible organization? For the record, it was at a CCA banquet that I met you at years ago. You were wearing a starched fishing shirt and taking money at the door lol.
Yes I was a CCA member and yes I did support the CCA , but I learned quickly the CCA is nothing but a social event where guys can get away from the wife once a year and say it's for the fishing


You look around and all you see is people you never see on the water !! But hey it's cool to be CCA


Like Mathgeek said you can write letters to your senators and WL&F ( I prefer emails)

You can still support the CCA and spend you $50 a year and watch nothing unfold here on big lake and if that's cool with you that's your money


I rather talk to other chains of commands who don't have big money individuals from Lake Charles telling them what to do !!



Chenier Energy is more fired up about helping this lake than our own CCA

Chenier had done more for the lake than the CCA
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Old 07-18-2014, 12:19 PM
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Yes I was a CCA member and yes I did support the CCA , but I learned quickly the CCA is nothing but a social event where guys can get away from the wife once a year and say it's for the fishing


You look around and all you see is people you never see on the water !! But hey it's cool to be CCA


Like Mathgeek said you can write letters to your senators and WL&F ( I prefer emails)

You can still support the CCA and spend you $50 a year and watch nothing unfold here on big lake and if that's cool with you that's your money


I rather talk to other chains of commands who don't have big money individuals from Lake Charles telling them what to do !!



Chenier Energy is more fired up about helping this lake than our own CCA

Chenier had done more for the lake than the CCA

Are only people who fish a certain amount of days a year allowed to be concerned about coastal conservation? (Even though I understand CCA does nothing) Quit making comments about people who "don't even fish Big Lake". You've done that a lot. I might fish it once a year, because i mainly fish the cocodrie area. But I am still very concerned about what's going on there. And would gladly join any grass roots effort to protect it. I am from Louisiana, and that should be good enough!
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Old 07-18-2014, 12:49 PM
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Are only people who fish a certain amount of days a year allowed to be concerned about coastal conservation? (Even though I understand CCA does nothing) Quit making comments about people who "don't even fish Big Lake". You've done that a lot. I might fish it once a year, because i mainly fish the cocodrie area. But I am still very concerned about what's going on there. And would gladly join any grass roots effort to protect it. I am from Louisiana, and that should be good enough!
I dont think hes saying anything negative toward ppl who fish the lake occasionally. I think hes referencing ppl who hardly fish the lake and are trying to make changes that wont benefit the estuary.
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Yes I was a CCA member and yes I did support the CCA , but I learned quickly the CCA is nothing but a social event where guys can get away from the wife once a year and say it's for the fishing


You look around and all you see is people you never see on the water !! But hey it's cool to be CCA


Like Mathgeek said you can write letters to your senators and WL&F ( I prefer emails)

You can still support the CCA and spend you $50 a year and watch nothing unfold here on big lake and if that's cool with you that's your money


I rather talk to other chains of commands who don't have big money individuals from Lake Charles telling them what to do !!



Chenier Energy is more fired up about helping this lake than our own CCA

Chenier had done more for the lake than the CCA
Who, in particular, do you suggest I write? What am I supposed to say? I don't have the answers. Also, what has Cheniere done? I haven't heard of anything. Glad to here they are stepping up.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:17 PM
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Who, in particular, do you suggest I write? What am I supposed to say? I don't have the answers. Also, what has Cheniere done? I haven't heard of anything. Glad to here they are stepping up.
Stand your ground on sound evidence that oyster dredging is hurting our lake

WL&F studies show the massive decline ever since oyster dredging was allowed


We have more hard evidence that Oyster dredging is hurting us than they had on Trout and 3tail
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We have more hard evidence that Oyster dredging is hurting us than they had on Trout and 3tail

And CCA still wont help to fight the issue!
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Stand your ground on sound evidence that oyster dredging is hurting our lake

WL&F studies show the massive decline ever since oyster dredging was allowed


We have more hard evidence that Oyster dredging is hurting us than they had on Trout and 3tail
Is there somewhere I can see this evidence?
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Is there somewhere I can see this evidence?
I have it on a email somewhere but MG posted it up the other day also
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Is there somewhere I can see this evidence?

Google 2013 la. Oyster assessment. Look for the oyster numbers by year, it will be a bar graph. It's pretty clear.


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